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        1. Brandy Miller

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  1. jte21

    Germany's not "rethinking" electric automobiles at all. There's a debate about ending generous subsidies/rebates for EVs, and while Germans do love their high-performance cars, many don't really drive much at all, given the extensive public transportation options in most places, so concerns about gas prices, etc. are not as intense as here in the US where most people outside a few large cities like NYC can't live without an automobile.

    1. Salamander

      Re public transportation, and apropos of nothing, yesterday I enjoyed Albuquerque's bus transportation system. Only complaint was that the schedule has excessive wait times. On the other hand (or not!), ridership during the middle of the day was low.

      To its credit, city government is trying to rebuild Covid-diminished ridership by making all buses FREE for the next several months. I hope it works. There are many cases when the one (1) car is not available, and a $20 Uber ride for a quick, short distance errand is ... ludicrous.

      1. jte21

        Never been to NM, but I'd really like to see Alberquerque and Santa Fe someday. Bus frequency is an issue in the suburban/rural area where I live as well. Ridership numbers probably can't justify running busses every 10 minutes, but you're never going to build those numbers if the frequency is such that a basic errand takes a couple of hours to complete. Vicious circle.

        1. coral

          Frequency problem is the main reason I hardly ever use the public bus system here in Western MA university town, even though the bus stop is less than a quarter mile from my house. There are about 6 buses a day, and none on weekends and limited further when college is not in session.

          And then you have to go to the middle of town and or to the college, and link up with another infrequently serviced line to get anywhere else.

          It just doesn't work for errands or shopping or appointments. Only if you want to stay all day.

          In some small cities in Italy I've taken very tiny buses that were packed with people, and they ran very frequently (every 15 minutes or so).

      2. MindGame

        Funding higher frequency rates would likely be a better way to increase ridership than the 100% fare subsidy. People are generally willing to pay a fair price for a transportation service when the system is dense enough and frequent enough to reliably get from A to B without great inconvenience. The increasing revenue that results from increased ridership also becomes a virtuous cycle, which makes service expansion more affordable.

  2. mistermeyer

    OK, that's all well and good, but what I want to know is... are Germans thinking twice about electric vehicles?

    (Disclaimer: I am of German descent, and I am -not- thinking twice about electric vehicles.)

    1. golack

      There was a write up on this a week or so ago, and included discussion of tax rebates on hybrids too, etc....but Google is failing me at the moment...

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