A lot of people see Elon Musk's tweets, so you might have seen this one:
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 8, 2024
This is not from the American Academy of Pediatrics, the main professional group of pediatricians in the US with nearly 70,000 members. It's the American College of Pediatricians, a small, socially conservative advocacy group founded in 2002 to oppose adoption by gay couples. They have opposed gender affirming care for trans children for many years. There's nothing either new or noteworthy about their latest statement.
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Give him something to do.
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Pretty sure it's a Google translation from Russian or something, or written by a non-English speaker. Or AI. The mystery is why only one.
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Oh noze! Should i believe the academy or the “college”? By the way, you all shall henceforth address me as “Dr.” Bebopman. I didn’t know this academic stuff was so easy.
You know what Democrats should do this presidential election year?
Come out strongly for gender affirming care. Make it one of the top priorities of Biden's second term. That's Smart Politics.
While we're at it, why not promote CA State Senator (from SanFran) Scott Wiener's legislation to prevent cars from exceeding the speed limit by 10 mph? No Democrat criticized it, so it can be fairly presented as representative of the party*. That will play out great in battleground states. Thanks Scott!
https://oaklandside.org/2024/02/13/qa-state-sen-scott-wiener-on-his-new-bill-to-mandate-speed-limiting-tech-in-cars/
Twenty years ago (!) Gavin Newsom's 2004 gay marriage licenses triggered (Rove engineered) initiatives in 11 states which helped Bush win. He subsequently appointed Alito. Thanks Gavin!
Are there any other fraught policies the Democrats can glue themselves this *presidential* election year to help the GOP? They should find some.
* and it will be. If you think the GOP is going to let that go by and not take advantage of it, you are mistaken.
Dude it’s 2024, not 2004. No sign that gender affirming care has anything like the impact you’re talking about. Silly comment
You’re nuts if you think be for sex changes for children would not harm the democrats politically.
Well, Mr guy who was advocating for a murderer who drove his car into a crowded crosswalk and killed someone who confronted him - after said murderer wrote about intending to do exactly that...
No children are having 'sex changes'. This isn't a thing.
Allowing them to explore their gender, and over their puberty, slow things down to reduce gender dysphoria, taking years for them to decide if they wish more permanent reductions, is what's happening.
So lying, Mr advocates for policies that kill more mothers and children.
Hey, you're right (about something). No children are having sex changes - that is not a thing.
That's true at all ages. Nobody can change their sex. They can do various things to impersonate the opposite sex, but sex change is not possible.
Six of one…
failing the satire challenge
Satire? Where?
Are you going to stop promoting virtuous ideas that will be demagogued to the low-information population even though avoiding allowing them a weapon may be as often more advisable than the benefit of the ideas themselves, or do you need to address that problem in a more constructive way?
'The dumb monkey population can choke on their own shit all they want to as along as they can find a way to keep their shit to themselves', would be a line of address that would resonate with the Trump voter if Democrats would condescend to actually speak to them.
The problem isn't the positions. It's that the GOP has no qualms about weaponizing whatever it needs.
To reductio ad adsurdum your already absurd post, the Democrats just shouldn't do anything because it will boomerang to hurt them.
Gavin Newsom's 2004 gay marriage bill is part of the reason gay marriage is legal today. Progressive politics is always a game of 2 steps forward, 1 step back.
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It's great that you can be so dispassionate and analytical about this. Of course, that's because you have nothing at stake. It's not like *you* are a trans person, or the parent of a trans person, or a medical person that provides care for a trans person.
No, who cares about all those people? Why don't they just shut up about it, and let people like Elon Musk share their perspective with no pushback?
I have a dog in this hunt. The well-being of my daughter matters to me. It matters to me a lot, and I will fight for her.
HEAR HEAR!
LOL.
I too "have a dog in this hunt" or perhaps it is the fox? Who is thinking of my child's long-term health? It certainly isn't you.
ACP is no great standard bearer, but don't put too much faith in the AAP either - they are supposed to be performing their own systematic review but they curiously, ahem, have failed to provide any of the parameters of that review while they whistle past the Cass Report hoping that they can somehow weasle their way into the conclusions they want. If they really consider the evidence, the AAP will reach the same conclusion as Cass, the Swedes, the Finns, the Norwegians and even WPATH (who cleverly decided to not publish and then bury the results they didn't like). When they weasle out of doing this, can we just call them a non-evidentiary liberal activist group?
The Cass Report belongs in the same category as creationist writings. "Yes, every major scientific organization says we are wrong, but we don't care."
FYI, it isn't just the AAP that supports gender-affirming care. It's also The American Medical Association, the American Association of Clinical Endocrinology, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Urological Association, and a very long list of others that I could, if you insist, copy here ad nauseam.
Permit me to suggest, the actual experts understand the evidence better than you do.
Right.
The Cass Report was funded by the NHS of England, it took into account the reviews of the evidence made by Finland and Sweden. All of those countries, plus Norway, Denmark and apparently soon Germany and France, have decided to pull back on pediatric sex trait modification.
All those western european countries are "creationist?" Really, is that the argument you're going with?
There's a useful table in the Cass Report showing how all those "major medical associations" in the USA and Canada are referencing each other in a very circular fashion.
Aha! This is how we know you're lying. You're mentioning Finland and Sweden where and anti-trans official created documents that don't follow scientific rigor purportedly supported by the Cass report.
You mention them, but you don't link them, because then I could show you where they're lying.
In Sweden, for instance, they made a big deal over requiring kids to get talk therapy first.
Which is, by the way, already what is the standard of care for gender affirming care.
And then I bet you'll show the suicide rate of non-trans people is lower than for trans people. Well yes, because there's no known treatment other than gender affirming care to make trans people into non-trans people! The appropriate comparison is trans people with care vs trans people without: of which there are many studies, which the Cass report accepts, that show gender affirming treatment reduces suicide rate.
Right. Because if kids were really going through therapy then the cases of kids getting surgery or testosterone almost immediately wouldn't happen. Are or those kids .. the Chloe Coles, the Prishas, the Ritchies just CRISIS ACTORS??!! I'm sure that's it. Its all a black flag operation, right down to the black helicopters.
You forget that other people have ACTUAL experience in this system - me included. Your portrayal of what's happening is pure pangloss, propaganda and bears no relation to reality.
What is your actual experience in this system?
Are you telling the world that there's an "anti-trans official" who created documents in *both* Finland and Sweden which somehow snowed York University??
Is the anti-trans official in the room with us now?
"There's a useful table in the Cass Report showing how all those "major medical associations" in the USA and Canada are referencing each other in a very circular fashion."
BINGO! That's exactly why the Cass Report is creationist literature. Dr. Cass really believes - or more likely is just hoping her readers will believe - that the premier medical associations just don't understand how science works or feel any need for actual data.
And you fell for it.
Ah yes, the NHS, York University, Dr. Hilary Cass, these are all nefarious actors trying to kill vulnerable sexual minorities. Makes perfect sense.
"Dr. Cass really believes - or more likely is just hoping her readers will believe - that the premier medical associations just don't understand how science works or feel any need for actual data."
The problem is the premier *American-led* medical associations are in a bind. Trans issues in the U.S. are politically polarized in a way that they aren't in Europe. That means that a lot of left-leaning people are reluctant to admit any weakness in the evidence base for gender-affirming care, lest they give ammunition to the right wing and be slimed by their left-leaning friends and colleagues.
"Trans issues in the U.S. are politically polarized in a way that they aren't in Europe."
*snrk*
I point out that anti-trans activists are following standard creationist tropes, like pointing at scientific consensus and calling it groupthink, and you respond by noting that most Euros are more comfortable with anti-trans bigotry than we are. This isn't scoring the point that you think it is.
"you respond by noting that most Euros are more comfortable with anti-trans bigotry than we are."
I noted earlier that you acted like a creationist by repeating a PRATT. This "summary" of what I said is about as intellectually honest as creationist arguments as well.
The fucking Cass Report doesn't, in fact, say to not do gender affirming care.
And anyone who says it does, is a fucking liar.
The Cass report required a level of evidence not ethically available to any mental health treatment.
"The Cass report required a level of evidence not ethically available to any mental health treatment."
Exactly. Studies on human subjects have to pass ethical review. And there's no ethical review board in any decent country that would approve a double-blind study on hormone replacement therapy. The ethical issues in such a study are huge and obvious.
And I have no doubt Dr. Cass understands that, which is why it was really convenient of her to make that her threshold for trans studies. Convenient indeed.
"And there's no ethical review board in any decent country that would approve a double-blind study on hormone replacement therapy.... And I have no doubt Dr. Cass understands that, which is why it was really convenient of her to make that her threshold for trans studies."
Dr. Cass didn't make double-blind studies the threshold for trans studies. It's ironic that you're describing her as being like a creationist when you're the one repeating a PRATT (acronym for "point refuted a thousand times" in anti-creationism circles).
Do you read for content? Kevin's post did not have a blessed thing to say one way or the other WRT gender-affirming care. No, Kevin's post was solely about the distinction between the AAP (a widely respected organization) and the ACP (which is not.)
What makes you think I should respect what you have to say about this subject -- or indeed, any other -- if you can't even parse what I thought were reasonable, well-formed sentences?
We can ban gasoline.
We can just do it!
What's even the point of gasoline?? It smells bad, it looks bad, it tastes bad and it's even just bad for you.
It can burst into flames and then you die. Who needs it?
Let's not even think about the cancer boiling around in the air, all from gasoline.
Banning it is the obvious, right thing to do.
Skip the narrow focus and make the issue broad:
Politicians should not get between me and my doctor
Right! That's the job of insurance companies!
Oh, it can matter.
A few hundred votes here or there can affect the balance of the Senate and the electoral college. Sure you can revile the GOP for weaponizing anything, but that doesn't mean it won't work.
Meanwhile, inside the house you've got DIAG (Democrats for an Informed Approach to Gender) who are advocating that the only way to save the party is not not vote for them until they come to their senses. Even instance of boys winning "Girls State Championships" just makes Trump seem less crazy.
DIAG is the modern counterpart to the former Dixiecrats. We keep kicking out bigots, but they keep weaseling back in.
There are no instances. You're lying.
Trans kids don't have any advantage over their same-gender peers because they're kids and haven't yet completed either puberty.
Crissa, are you being stupid or duplicitous? Hard to say.
Terry Miller won multiple state titles in CT
Andray Yearwood was right behind Terry Miller
Aayden Gallagher won the 200m dash in OR.
CeCe Telfer won the NCAA Division II in 400m hurdles.
Veronica Garcia won the 400m dash in WA.
How many trans identified male athletes need to win tournaments (Aayden had been training less than three months) for it to matter?
so you are mad Newsom chose to not continue to villainize gay people and rather chose to recognize them as humans 20 years ago?
What a great idea! Let's also talk about the transwomen with penises being put in female prisons on the west coast. Currently the management strategy of the prison management is to distribute condoms and harass women who complain. That's be a super winning strategy, second only to all the transgirls winning sporting competitions, because people care more about high school girls than women in prison.
Oh, boy! Let's demonize the tiny proportion in jail while ignoring the fucking male guards, you misogynist asshole.
The guards aren't locked IN the sleeping room with the vulnerable women, Crissa.
It's not womens' job to fix male violence, but it sure as hell is a prison's job to keep their inmates safe. Women are not therapy animals for trans identified males. Not women's job to keep men safe, no matter how they identify.
Do you have any evidence that women aren't safe due to the presence of transwomen in jails? Or is this just hypothesizing based upon your assumptions and prejudices?
Unfortunately for speed-limiting tech is that to know the speed limit appropriately, you need software that basically already knows how to self drive.
Newsom's gay marriage ceremonies at city hall in San Francisco also resulted in photos of lines around the block and happy couples being seen everywhere, putting the concept on the map as a positive thing. Used negatively by right wingers, but then it passed in one state after another and then won in the Supreme Court. What Newsom did was a significant part of the process.
Ah twitter. Such a fountain of bullshit. And porn. I hear it’s good for porn too. ????
I have a comment on this blog post based on the following background info.
I noticed and then lost the webpage header quote because I clicked too fast on the link to this post, but I think I got this right: "Republicans are evil, Democrats are idiots." - Marc Siegel. Is Marc right? I don't think so. .
At the highest level, there are two kinds of people. Type 1 is comprised of those who think some people are more important than other people, and Type 2 are those who think we're all tied for first place.
Within Type 1, one level down, there are two kinds of people. Type 1.1 is comprised of those who think people with power got there because they are more important, and the good news is they are in power. Type 1.2 is comprised of those who've convince themselves they should be in power because they are more important, and the people now in power got there by cheating.
Type 1.1 people are evil, Type 1.2 people are idiots, and Type 2 people are sufficiently wise.
Type 2 politicians in positions of power are Democrats or Independents (Joe Manchin is an idiot). Type 2 Republican politicians have been primaried.
How does any of this relate to this blog post? Elon Musk is evil.
Well, you left out detailing the "con man" factor. I like to think that Libertarians come in two flavors: the naive, and the folks who prey upon them.
The Trumpublican party has gone the same way, but with the addition of the "evil" that you mention. People who, to all appearances and deeds, actively enjoy inflicting pain upon others. And they are easily manipulated by the con men, who also like to hurt others, while claiming victimhood for themselves and of course, their followers. The bully as victim!
There is a difference between the naive Libertarian and the con artist. The former does bad things and the latter does bad things. Also, the former is convinced they're doing the right thing whereas the latter is convinced they're doing the right thing. Wait a minute ... maybe I need to put more thought into this. I'll get back to you.
Well, you totally didn't get it. Apparently, I need to work a lot harder on my writing skills.
Musk's daughter transitioned in around 2022 or so, and it was one of those butterfly flaps its wings events.
If she does not transition or if Musk takes it with any degree of grace it would be a diffenent 2024.
A 2024 where his shitposting would be half, at best, he would never have bought twitter, and as a result of that literally millions of people would be supporting Tesla and as a result we would be farther along (only a bit farther towards tha transition to sustainable energy.
Because he is completely on the spectrum I do not predict him changing his behaviour, although he is basically evil, if you will, in this incredibly narrow sense. At least that ms my take after following tesla closely since about 2018.
He was always extremely filled with typical on the spectrum jackassery. But it used to be clearly just that, if you will.
His evilness seems to be unrelated to his neurodiversity status: he seems to have wealth-acquired adult narcissism. Or WAAN, as you can see from his shitposting crying about things he has no knowledge of.
He was brought up in apartheid South Africa and his father was a known white supremacist and white replacement theorist.
Damn. Right-wingers are pulling the same crap they did with tobacco use and climate science. Get a few fringe members to cosplay for the cameras and pretend the profession is opposed to the science and treatment that members of the profession in fact overwhelmingly support.
A look at two "pediatricians groups":
American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)
+Founded in 1930 to address pediatric healthcare standards
+Largest professional association of pediatricians in the United States
+67,000 members in primary care and sub-specialist areas
+Largest pediatric publisher program in the world, with more than 300 titles for consumers and over 500 titles for physicians and other healthcare professionals
+Supports transgender and gender-diverse youth
American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds)
+Founded in 2002 as a protest against the AAP's support for adoption by gay couples
+Membership reported to be about 700 physicians
+Listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for pushing "anti-LGBTQ junk science"
Feels like the express purpose of ACPeds is generating headlines like this one: ‘Gender-affirming’ treatments don’t benefit youth, says pediatricians group: ‘Irreversible consequences.’
The American Institute of Pediatricians (sole member: me. Also, not a pediatrician.) has just announced that Musk should be drawn and quartered to prevent the spread of disinformation. The Institute will not be taking questions at this time.
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We always hear that gender is a social construct, and I would agree with that assertion. As such, this makes the determination of one's own gender an intellectual exercise. This undoubtedly occurs at a subconscious level most of the time, but since the construct is built on social rules, it must result from a categorization thought process. So...
Can someone please tell me what criteria are used for making a gender identity categorization decision? What traits, characteristics, and behaviors must one possess and exhibit to belong in the "woman" category (inclusive of "transwoman" and ciswoman")? What traits, characteristics, and behaviors must one possess and exhibit to belong in the "man" category (inclusive of "transman" and cisman")?
I have wracked my brain and searched high and low on the internet and have not found a definitive answer to this question that does not rely solely on harmful sexist stereotypes. There simply is no way for a male to be considered a woman unless one accepts that stereotypically female traits and behaviors "make" him a woman. That is the absolute opposite of feminism... the opposite of progressive. As an intellectual foundation for gender determination, it is both regressive and oppressive.
By all means, we should all let the man wear his high-heeled shoes and his pretty sundresses without teasing him or bullying him. Let him feel more vulnerable and emotionally available than men "are supposed to be." Let him modify his body through chemical and surgical intervention if he wants. Don't give a hoot about his sexual orientation. Let him live his best life. Just don't expect anyone to think he's anything other than a man who happens to have these various traits and exhibit these various behaviors.
imaging being this upset about someone's decisions on gender.
your 300 word screed suggest you give a hoot son.
I'm not upset at someone's decision. I'm upset that our society is so flooded with sexism that we lose sight of the fact that the man I describe is just fine *as a man.* And that peculiar blindness has driven so-called gender-nonconforming individuals to conclude they are what they are not (or worse, parents impose this view on their children - thinking they're doing the right thing when all they're really doing is solidifying sexist ideology).
It was a little long because the simple fact that all humans are either male or female has been drowned in transgender ideology (i.e., sexism), which takes a little work to unravel.
Please turn off the knee-jerk reactions and think about this a little more deeply, "dad."
Actually there are some humans with indefinite sexuality. And forms of transgenderism are seen in all kinds of societies, and centuries before the present time.
I do think it's possible that some may feel a need to change their sex because of patriarchal/sexist roles in society and associated homophobia, even though they have greatly reduced in places like the US and Europe in recent decades.
And god knows adolescents are on a search for identity that may change year by year. Not many are goths at 30, even if they still love The Cure. But "princess boys" also do exist. I had a lot of idiotic self concepts before I was 25, as many do. Certainly caution is called for.
Don't Trust Anyone Under Thirty
I assume you're referring to individuals with differences in sexual development (DSDs), also known as "intersex" in some circles. These individuals are, in fact, all either male or female. Just because determining someone's sex is difficult doesn't mean it can't be done. Regardless, this is a non sequitur to transgender ideology, which claims that saying you're a man makes you a man; saying you're a woman makes you a woman.
Regarding "change their sex," it is impossible for a human to change their sex. Someone may undergo surgical, hormonal, or other procedures to modify how they look and develop physically, but they will always be the sex they were from conception.
A person can be XX but have a misplaced SRY gene (that they shouldn't have because it's normally on the Y chromosome), and thus grow up with an apparently male body.
A person can be XY and yet be androgen insensitive, or XY but lacking the SRY gene, and thus grow up with an apparently female body.
Are all these people the "same sex they were from conception"? Nature is more complicated than you realize.
A person with CAIS (formerly called testicular feminization) is effectively female. They are raised as female, they usually don't find out until they never develop pubic hair and don't start having periods.
This has nothing to do with trans.
There are two sexes.
There is no third gamete.
Here's the rub. There is no definitive test for who is "true trans." What we have right now is a LOT of pediatric sex trait modification and growing numbers of detransitioners who are literally saying "how did you let me cut my breasts off, I was a child?!?"
I know many of you will discount Chloe Cole because she's a conservative and hangs with conservative ideologues, but she literally became unhappy, declared a trans identity, got her parents to take her to a gender clinic (where they expected an expert would do some sort of specialist evaluation), was immediately affirmed (because the AAP says that's all you can do, see the 2018 Statement on Gender), was put on puberty blockers at 12, then testosterone, then double mastectomy and finally she detransitioned ALL before she was 18 years old.
Luka Hein had her breasts removed after two visits to a gender clinic. She was 16 at the time. I tried to find a "neutral" news source for her story, but other than the big NYT Magazine piece, this is only being covered in the United States by right-leaning media. So, if you haven't heard of detransitioners, it's because you are in a bubble.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/woman-who-transitioned-to-male-at-16-during-chaotic-time-sues-doctors-who-gave-her-double-mastectomy/ar-AA1gJ3Ps
"A lot" of pediatric sex modification? I know there's been a lot MORE treatment for gender dysphoria among children, but there have not been "a lot" in the context of the vast number of American children. Top surgeries in 2021 for adolescents? 281. That is not "a lot."
You can usually recognize a moral panic based on the discrepancy between the perceived severity and the real measure of the issue among those who keep bringing the issue up. Have a look for yourself.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/
I appreciate Reuters looking for hard data, but I reject the idea that they enumerated every "top surgery" performed in 2021. They went off insurance claims data. Not all insurance covers GAC, particularly for minors.
https://www.gofundme.com/s?q=top+surgery
^Shows that many young people are trying to do this outside of insurance.
But still, if you look at the rate of increase and then consider we're into 2024 now, I think the numbers are significant. Adolescence is a time of identity formation and it's normal for adolescents to take on different identities that they later realize weren't right for them.
Trans is not the new gay. Being gay doesn't require surgery or medication with significant morbidity. A fair number of these kids actually are gay, and need time to figure that out.
Being trans doesn't require surgery.
But demonizing those trans and cis kids who elect for surgery is disingenuous and a disgusting invasion of privacy.
You're ignoring the stories of Chloe and Luka, Crissa. Kids are being harmed by this ideology.
Uh, this:
is most definitely not the way it works. You make a claim, you back it up. This is such a stupid libertoonian trick: Make a claim, someone evinces skepticism and here's why, with links, and then all of a sudden they have to justify their skepticism of your claim to you. You've got to know this trick never works unless, sometimes, you're arguing with a seventeen-year-old newb who is still new to the whole bad faith thing.
You're the one promoting life changing irreversible medical treatments for children.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Which you don't have.
I'm arguing for what was standard practice until less than 20 years ago: watchful waiting. A supermajority of trans identified kids will desist with the onset of normal puberty. Most of them will be gay. We are converting gay boys into "straight" girls and lesbians into "straight" boys. It's homophobic.
Whatever I may or may not have 'promoted' has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with you challenging other people to prove you're wrong instead of actually, you know, proving you're right by defending your claims. You don't want to do that and as other posters have already noted, have no intention of doing so despite every invitation to the contrary.
TL;DR: At this point the only thing you've convinced me of are that your words unimportant, and so I do not hear them.
If you've got better numbers, share them. A link to a gofundme campaign is not better data.
The rate of increase is very high, but the numbers of pediatric patients diagnosed with gender dysphoria are a tiny, tiny fraction of the whole -- 42k out of about 75 million. I think the best response it to let the expert physicians and the parents of the kids involvd work it out. Moral panics over kids transitioning won't help.
I'm not panicking, but this is a medical scandal. You can figure it out now or you can figure it out later.
The guy who invented lobotomies won the Nobel Prize.
We're sterilizing children (Jazz Jennings was 17 at the time of orchiectomy) and I think that's wrong.
Detransitioners are highly rare. Regret from gender affirming care is power than any studied medical procedure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detransition#:~:text=Davies%20and%20colleagues%20searched%20for,detransitioned%20temporarily%2C%20to%20later%20retransition.
The detransition rate is unknown.
https://link.springer.com/10.1007/s10508-023-02623-5
So many unknowns in this field of medicine. So few long term studies published, so many patients lost to follow up.
It's odd.
That example was one of bad doctoring, and as far as I know not the way it's normally or should ever be done.
Real definitions do not usually include a single point upon which a binary is made, but a cloud of features which if it has enough of them, fits the definition. This allows for definitions to have exceptions.
People interact with each other based upon the social features we show - we don't introduce ourselves by flashing our genitals or showing birth certificates, after all. Gendered violence rarely hinges upon genitals at all!
It;'s Robby Starbuck
of course its a lie
It's true that the ACP is a splinter group with a very small membership.
It's not true that all 67K fellows of the AAP are in complete agreement about what the leadership has been promoting.
Any efforts to get the leadership to reconsider what they're doing are squashed. This article is from Britain (again, left leaning media in the United States have been avoiding the fact that there are liberals worried about pediatric transition), and it's almost two years old, but I can tell you that the efforts to silence debate have only accelerated from here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11099561/Leaked-internal-files-pediatricians-angry-professional-bodys-transgender-policy.html
Yes, and nothing stops members of the ACP from also being in the AAP.
Which is why you and your sources are dishonest .
Do you have a point? What does that even mean?? The AAP is not open to heterodox ideas from its membership.
The Daily Mail? AHAHAHAAHHAHAHA!
The way liberals try to normalize these mental health disorders they are only helping republicans.
The guy who advocated for a murderer who plowed a car into a crowded crosswalk, and then shot and killed someone who confronted him...
...is supposed to be the person we take advice for about gender diversity?
Fuck off, misogynistic murder advocate.
WTF are you talking about? You need help.
We were all there, Atticus, and that was exactly what you did. Maybe you should retire the 'Atticus' handle and shitpost under a new name, because just about everyone here has got your number.
Sweet, everyone has my number? Hit me up. Come on over and have a beer and float in the pool with me.
You're not of my class and I most sincerely doubt that you have it in you to climb that high. But by all means, continue to strive.
I have no doubt you believe I’m not of your class.
You approve of (the right) people using their vehicle as a weapon and then shooting anyone who dares to object. I don't.
It's a pretty low bar to clear, A.
My sister is a member of the CIA. No, not the Culinary Institute of America - the *other* CIA. You know, the Canadian Institute of Actuaries.
That was a very entertaining comment war. I feel bad for the kids.