Not everyone is happy about the money the IRS got a couple of years ago to beef up its tax enforcement of rich people:
Adding ten times as much to their budget to get this doesn’t seem like a great deal. And we were promised it would be net positive. By your party, and probably you. https://t.co/reK8gi3DnJ
— Critical Bureaucracy Theory (@aphofer) December 28, 2024
This is a common conservative trope: You've spent all this money and gotten nothing! Its most famous use is that lots of money has been allocated for electric charging stations but only nine have been built. But that project was scheduled from the start to go through 2030. There's nothing wrong with the current construction rate (210 charging ports through Q3 of 2024).
The same kind of thing is true here. Let's go through it:
- The original funding level for everything related to the IRS was $80 billion.
- Of that, $45 billion was for enforcement.
- Republicans have either clawed back or frozen about half of that, so we're down to about $22 billion.
- That's for all enforcement. Probably around two thirds is for audits of the rich. That puts us in the neighborhood of $15 billion.
- As always, this is over ten years. It's probably somewhat front loaded, so it's most likely around $2 billion per year right now.
- So if Jayapal is right about the $4.7 billion number, that's $4.7 billion in return for about $4 billion in spending during the program's first two years.
- Needless to say, the intent is to ramp up enforcement over the next decade. These cases can take a lot of time, and the payoff will get bigger and bigger each year.
Griping about $4.7 billion compared to $80 billion is either ignorant or dishonest. Only time will tell how successful this enforcement program is over its lifetime, but right now it's perfectly reasonably on track.
I'll go for option (b), dishonest.
The obvious response is Porque no los dos?
Regardless of the net positive, we simply should not allow for rich scofflaws- why is that so hard to understand.
+1
If it requires nuance, it is almost certain to fail.
Shirley this will all be solved via AI? ...
Unlikely. And don’t call me Shirley.
Ultimately the return for audits of the rich will be much larger than whatever is reported. It used to be that the fear of audits resulted in pretty honest tax returns being filed by the rich. Re-instilling that fear should result in far more taxes being paid in the first place than is actually attributed to the audits.
Excellent points!
Yep. +1
I just want to see the law enforced.
Wait, haven't I heard that somewhere before?
While fear of audits should get more money out of the rich, the real winners are the accountants and tax lawyers who get paid for devising new ways to get around the rules, or at worst taking cases to the courts.
The real measage to convey is that Republicans keep trying to Defund the Police
All cut in the continuing resolution just passed....
https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/news/in-massive-cr-irs-funding-cut-beneficial-ownership-report-extension/
Besides, the mere threat of enforcement is probably raking in more money than the 4.7 billion recovered.
After January , fear of audits on the wealthy will immediately transform into- Fear of audits on the wealthy … who haven’t purchased shares in Truth Social
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"The United States is losing $1 trillion in unpaid taxes every year." That's the assessment of Charles Rettig, a recent IRS commish appointed by Trump, no less.
It's not likely you'd get all of that, but without extraordinary effort (funding, staffing, persistence), the IRS could probably rake in hundreds of billions more per year. You could fund great programs that make a difference in people's lives with that kind of cash.
Instead, we're likely to hear more b.s. about out-of-control government spending and the need to cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.
I fear that will get reconstructed to mean tax breaks for the poor are "unpaid taxes" We can't touch crypto now.
Dishonest and ignorant is an option.
But the idea that law or rule enforcement must be a profit center is a plague on American society. Bad way to run a business, terrible way to run a country.
Any return on the program is beside the point — it's about fundamental fairness.
and I fear any fundamental fairness will evaporate come January