Elon Musk and his Twitter army are on the warpath tonight:
You’re not gonna believe this, but @GavinNewsom just announced that he signed a LAW to make parody illegal, based on this video 🤣🤣 https://t.co/bdykNuxe6G
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 18, 2024
This is all over the conservo-sphere: California wants to ban memes!
But this whole thing is bizarre. On Tuesday Gov. Gavin Newsom signed some laws regulating deepfakes. One of them is election related and goes into effect immediately.
But California already has a law against deepfakes in political campaigns. We've had it since 2020. The new law, if I'm reading it correctly, does two things. First, existing law takes effect only during the 60 days before an election. The new law is in effect 120 days before and 60 days after an election. Second, the old law allowed a candidate to sue for removal of a deepfake. The new law allows almost anyone to sue.
Both old and new laws apply only to "materially deceptive content" that's distributed with malice. But content is exempt if it's clearly marked as either parody or manipulated.
So . . . I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Campaign deepfakes have been illegal in California for four years. They're still illegal, and the new law has only slightly sharper teeth. What am I missing here?
What are you missing? The MAGA Republican determination to win the election campaign using a torrent of deliberate lies and disinformation.
What he wrote! And how in the world could anyone miss it, let alone a reasonably sophisticated blogger?
Yes, how is this confusing, exactly?
They're complaining about rules because they don't want to follow them.
No and we won't.
Here is a wonderful "fuck you" to Gavin Newsome - a deep fake of his voice that is a deliberate response to this law and that is clearly protected by the Constitution that he so cavalierly disregards.
https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1836518555648692570
What are you missing? Kevin’s subtle but snarky skepticism, that’s what.
Exactly! They're liar liars who are mad that lying comes with consequences.
Obviously no one noticed the original law.
The main issue here is that this law is obviously unconstitutional. Lies are protected by the First Amendment with minor exceptions such as fraud or attempting to stop people from voting by giving them inaccurate information about how / where / when to vote.
For example, this video is 100% legal and protected by the First Amendment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgVeAz8q458&ab_channel=TIMESNOW
This is just one more example of how Democrats have abandoned their previous support for the First Amendment as the proliferation of peer to peer media has eliminated the gate keeping role of liberal mass media members.
Libel and defamation are not OBVIOUSLY protected by the 1st amendment.
Try harder doofus
Nor is, for example, the use of a public figure's name or image to endorse or advocate for, say, a product or candidate without that person's approval. Thus "cease and desist" letters, defamation lawsuits, etc.
MAGAts love overly simplistic and facially absurd interpretations of laws and the Constitution ...
Nope. But a deep fake of Harris doing the nasty with Willie Brown would be protected by the First Amendment.
If the California law restricted itself to commercial advertising it would probably pass Constitutional muster. it does not.
The California law does not mention libel or defamation. Try harder next time.
I said try harder.
I didnt mean to imply that you should try to sound even more uninformed.
Sometimes my english isnt great. Apologies!
As an example, this video is clearly protected by the First Amendment but banned under California law. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1836265669631053838
You should have given your sage advice to Trump, Alex Jones, Rudy Giuliani, Kari Lake, and Fox News. You could have saved them the about $2 Billion in damages and penalties they lost in the courts for their lying about others.
That is libel. The California deep fake law does not limit itself to prohibiting libel.
And what isn't libel that it bans?
This for example: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1836265669631053838
Good God, man! Must you be drunk every time you post?
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What liberal mass media? As far as I can tell, there is no such thing.
How long is it since a significant number of newspapers in major metropolitan areas endorsed the Republican candidate in a presidential election?
Correct, MF, you pedophile.
And since MF lives in Saudi Arabia where they execute sexual deviants like feminists, MF, as a pedophile, may get what he deserves after all?
Dude, there has never been a case where a court approved direct, knowingly lying, or continuing to lie when it was pointed out when the target was an identifiable person or organization.
We generally call this "libel law".
Actually, if it is not defamation or slander or if no one could believe it is true then it is constitutionally protected.
For example, I can say that Harris and Trump are both Martians in full page ads in every major newspaper and keep doing it as long as those newspapers will print my adds and neither candidate will have any recourse to stop me.
Musk is an attention whore attempting to distract away from the Orange Beast and his race-baiting, which is a redirection away from the idiocratic leader's fascist leanings.
The rubes always need a new outrage of the moment. Its hard to predict what exactly will take off, so you have to flood the zone. All the time.
Speaking of MAGA in California, what's going on with the Schiff/Garvey Senate race? I peruse the LA Times most days of the week and haven't seen anything about it in a while. Has Garvey just sort of given up already?
"I still cannot conceive of the fascist movement being intentionally deceptive. No, I must assume they are acting in good faith and are merely confused. I will gladly correct them."
Sept 3-5, Emerson, Schiff 55%, Garvey 33%. A blowout just like we thought.
"You're not going to believe this..." You're right, we don't. Xhit has becone a cess pool of hate and ignorance. Leon Skum has to keep those advertising dollars rolling in. Nothing sells more than hate and ignorance.
Since his Twitter take over he has bled around 75% of advertising revenue. Sadly, capitalist cynicism is not a viable defense. He simply drinks his own kool-aid.
Why oh why can't we just ignore this bullshit? It's only aimed at the MAGA faithful.
I can't disagree with giving "almost anyone" standing to sue. In the last days before the election, diverting a campaign's money and time to an AI lawsuit is a waste. If someone else wants to shoulder the load and free up the candidate for better things, good on ya.
Sure, but the courts will knock down most such suits because of lack of "standing."
...unless the law says they have standing.
I don't mean to imply the current SCOTUS cares about or shows any judicial consistency or integrity, but they did allow Texas' bounty hunter anti-abortion law to stand.
Also, any one person has literally limited time. There's no way for anyone to be everywhere and able to respond to any thing any time they're being faked.
Kevin, I'm mystified why you keep giving these clowns (Musk, Stephens, et al) the assumption of good faith arguments. Have you been on another planet the last few decades?
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about. "
The fuss is about slandering liberals/Democrats, keeping the MAGA faithful inflamed.
What am I missing here?
You're missing the fact that the general election is less than seven weeks away.
I'm not sure what the fuss is about.
The "fuss" is about energizing the MAGA base and/or distracting them from issues like healthcare, or the booming stockmarket. Similar to the Springfield Haitian BS. It's all these criminals have: made to order outrage.
There you go again, ascribing normie thoughts to edge lords. It's nice to see that online people can still be normal.
Oh please! They don't want to identify it as fake. Surely you know that?
What you're missing is that Elon is a pissy little baby with a cult.