Kylie Jenner wore a faux lion head to Paris Fashion Week and got a thumbs-up from PETA:
In a statement to DailyMail.com, PETA President Ingrid Newkirk praised Jenner and Shayk for possibly making a statement against trophy hunting....Newkirk also urged the fashion stars to give up using wool products, which PETA says leads to the abuse and injury of sheep, and silk, which results in silkworms being killed in many instances.
Silkworms?
My vegan brother won't eat honey because bees are somehow abused in the process of doing all that they ever want to do, but has not qualms about driving 80 mph through a swarm of any kind of insect that cares to smear his windshield. Don't ask how any of this makes sense
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Hey, welcome back! I like to think I shamed Kevin into uncancelling you. Looking forward to more of your pithy, incisive comments.
Silk worms just want to be free. Their misery is their art that we appropriate to mock them.
I don't know about silkworms, but domesticated sheep need to be sheared at least once a year. Unlike wild sheep, they do not shed their wool naturally, and if they are not sheared, the wool continues to grow until it is a health hazard for the sheep. The wool becomes filthy, matted and a haven for maggots and other parasites. You may have seen photos of sheep that have gotten lost and become completely overgrown with wool. It is a sad sight.
We should also stop eating fruit and vegetables. Countless billions of innocent caterpillars, snails, slugs, rats, mice, aphids and other of Gaia's creatures are slaughtered every year just so humans can have a balanced diet.
Someone ought to explain to PETA that fashion week is the human ritual of celebrating wasteful consumption, and that the use of faux materials only further pollutes the Earth with artificially-derived long-chain esters that will outlast the folks at PETA, causing harm to wildlife.
Playing Don Quixote relative to PETA audiences.
Yes, insects do appear to be more than the robotic little nothings we feel free to ignore. For instance: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211126-why-insects-are-more-sensitive-than-they-seem
I've been reading stuff about this around (little in mainstream press of course because they handle science news poorly) for decades now. How surprising would it be to find out we got something wrong? I'd urge you to read the article with an open mind (not a popular suggestion online, I know). And you can find other articles like it out there too.
Insects literally eat each other alive, dissolving the inside of their fellow insect prey for example while still living.
Never mind birds eating said insects alive.
(etc)
If you’ve never read about jewel wasps you should:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-a-wasp-turns-cockroaches-into-zombies/
Oh yes. Lovely the insect world.
I have eaten plant-based for 30+ years, but I get all this.
https://www.mattball.org/2022/10/ed-yong-on-insects.html
And predators eat fuzzy bunnies too, so this isn't a real shocker (nor about anything I or the article said). Still, "everyone else is doing it" doesn't really absolve anyone does it? It's like hiding behind "market forces" when the market used to support, say, redlining.
To make silk you boil the cocoon before it hatches, thus killing the occupant. There is a process of harvesting silk after the moth hatches, though it is more expensive. The resulting silk is called Ahimsa silk. Apparently ahimsa means “peace”.
But, as I understand it, the moths that hatch, having been bred for centuries, are unable to fly and thus can’t survive.
Doesn't matter if the moths can fly, as long as they can make more silkworms.
Many insects have "adult" (post-larval) stages that live just long enough to breed, sometimes just a matter of hours. So domestic silkworm moths are not outside the norm for wild insects.
Without mating, the adult moths last about a week.
The male dies about an hour after mating, the female about a day after laying her eggs.
I'm not sure about other countries, but in Taiwan, the "humane" way of harvesting doesn't involving harvesting the silk after they hatch from cocoon, but rather have the worms spun their silk on a flat surface, and they'll morph into pupa when they're done.
The pupa are then collected and... Few are saved for reproduction while most are used for chicken feeds.
So it's gone from being boiled (and then used as animal feed) to getting eaten alive.
PETA. Nothing from PETA should be quoted nor given any time of day.
Yes. Or like any absolutists, always contextualize how narcissistic, self-righteous, and patronizing they are, how absolutely convinced they are of the perfection of their opinions. Whatever the moral weight or even factual correctness of their opinions,, the black and white worldviews of absolutists like PETA always lead to bad outcomes. Narcissism is narcissism, however you cloak it.
PETA, considered by many to be the highest-profile animal rights group in the country, kills an average of about 2,000 dogs and cats each year at its animal shelter here.
And the shelter does few adoptions — 19 cats and dogs in 2012 and 24 in 2011, according to state records.
At a time when the major animal protection groups have moved to a “no kill” shelter model, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals remains a holdout, confounding some and incensing others who know the organization as a very vocal advocacy group that does not believe animals should be killed for food, fur coats or leather goods.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/peta-finds-itself-on-receiving-end-of-others-anger.html
Just in case you didn’t know.
I salute PETA for staying true to their cause and not morphing into another single issue trans group.
I've got to stop watching "Planet Earth" on BBC America. The violence and suffering of animals as they attack and eat each other is a moral abomination!
I think examining the way we use, keep, and harvest animals with a mind to minimizing or eliminating suffering is a worthwhile human endeavor. I personally don't think we can live well without using animals for food, labor, materials, or research. But we still have a responsibility toward caring for how we treat them.
That being said I have declared all out war on the mice in my garage. I do all the non-invasive repelling stuff I can to keep their numbers low, but if they breach those barriers, it's glue traps and heparin cakes. Sorry, rodents.
Glue traps are about as inhumane as it gets. Use a more traditional spring trap, which kills the animal immediately, instead of keeping them stuck (literally) for as long as it takes them to starve to death.
I trust you don’t leave your garage door open, that it closes fully, and you’ve closed-off all other potential entry points to your garage.
And you don’t leave anything the mice might eat in there or at least have it up on unclimbable shelves.
How about adopting a cat (or letting it adopt you) and letting it into the (closed) garage for awhile each day?
I can practically guarantee that (1) it will catch a few mice: briefly brutal, but the way of nature; and (2) the mice will pretty quickly figure out what’s happened and decamp for safer quarters.
Sure has worked for us. Bonus: you get an outstanding new family member, and renew the contract cats and humans have been enacting since humans first began storing grain in barns.
Silkworm.
Silkworm.
Showing that I’m virtuous.
Eat up your mull berry leaves
While shadow I will throw.
Re: bees. We get honey from "enslaved" bees. I've even seen dental floss (!) which is "waxed" with tea-tree oil, to avoid using the products of the enslaved little critters.
On a slightly different note, after hearing a couple of presentations on New Mexico's native bees, I'm finally good with the thousands of dandelions that come up in the upper back yard every spring. It seems that dandelions provide food for the first wave of bees (of all types). Having a grass-only lawn contributes to their starvation!
At the bottom of the slope is bacteria. Sterilization and antibiotics should be banned!!
"He loveth best who loveth most,
All creatures, great and small.
The Streptococcus is the test: I love him least of all."
The true objective of all organisms is to reproduce successfully. The species which have done this best are the ones which exist. By cultivating silkworms we have probably assisted their procreation substantially. Would the silkworms be happier if they were allowed to forage for themselves in the wild? Many of them would probably be eaten by birds and other predators. But what happens to the moths which the worms eventually turn into? Are they cruelly killed off and is this the real dirty secret of the silk industry? But obviously they are allowed to reproduce (or there wouldn't be any silkworms), so their purpose in life is fulfilled - what more can they ask?
When the cocoons are boiled, the dead larvae are collected and eaten.
They save enough for reproduction, but most cocoons are boiled for silk collection, with the dead pupa collected for animal feed (usually chicken).
I mean 5 pairs of moths will produce a couple thousand eggs, which are more than enough to be going on with.
"Bags of flour with feathers", is how I once heard an industrial farmer describe chickens. I'm not opposed to eating meat or using other animal products if it's sustainable. It's the disrespect to other living creatures, the industrialization of their suffering, that has to end. Thinking of insects is a welcome counterpart to the conventional economic wisdom that animals, even higher ones except for us, are mere objects
I always wonder what all these morally superior Vegans wear a their feet. Shoe leather is made from the hide of cattle, the same cattle that they refuse to eat the meat of.
Synthetics, or perhaps sandals made from twisted hemp …
Humans are in a constant battle with other living creatures for survival. You can choose to not eat certain animals, but we really are stuck killing all sorts of life either directly or indirectly. The production, storage, and transportation of edible plants requires a lot of dead rodents and insects. Sometimes we get other critters to do it for us, from a barn cat to predatory insects brought in to kill pests, but there really is no way around it outside of growing food in an entirely sealed greenhouse.
So maybe vegans on Mars will manage it. But they probably kill the mice at the rocket factory, so even that is tainted from day 1.