This has become a weirdly popular right-wing meme lately on Twitter—amplified, of course, by Elon Musk:
Kamala will shut down X if she wins pic.twitter.com/sML999zQlB
— Clown World ™ 🤡 (@ClownWorld_) August 30, 2024
This interview clip is from 2019 and has nothing to do with shutting down Twitter. It took place during Trump's first impeachment inquiry after he had threatened the whistleblower who revealed his conversation with Ukranian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy—the one where he pressured Zelenskyy to dig up dirt on Joe Biden in return for military aid. Trump wanted the whistleblower treated as a traitor:
“I want to know who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that’s close to a spy,” Mr. Trump said. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”
Harris argued that this should be taken seriously and Twitter should take down Trump's account:
You have to take seriously witness intimidation. You have to take seriously an attempt to obstruct justice. You have to take seriously a threat to a witness and really to their safety and potentially their life.
....And we're talking about a private corporation, Twitter, that has terms of use, and as far as I'm concerned and I think most people would say, including members of Congress who he has threatened, that he has lost his privileges and it should be taken down.
....He does not have a right to commit a crime because he is president of the United States.... And anyone who wants to say, well, this is a matter of free speech, you are not free to threaten the life of a witness. That is a crime.
You may, of course, think that Harris was wrong to urge Twitter to shut down Trump's account. But that's all it was. She believed Trump had pretty plainly violated Twitter's terms of service by threatening official retribution against the whistleblower who had reported his misconduct. And I hardly need to point out that the whistleblower turned out to be right, do I?
Clown World. I can't think of a better name for Trumps supporters, his campaign, the GOP or Elon Musks version of Twitter.
I was thinking the same thing: "Username checks out."
clownworld account is suspended, the one Keven references is
clownworld™ but for some reason the ™ appears as a blank
I'll be interested to see how the experiment in Brazil plays out...
"You may, of course, think that Harris was wrong to urge Twitter to shut down Trump's account."
Well, obviously Twitter itself ultimately didn't. At least, until pathetically wannabe Tony Stark Elon(gated) Musk(rat) paid $44 billion so that he could personally give Trump a twitter account again.
“He does not have the right to commit a crime because he is president of the United States . . . “
Pretty sure the Supreme Court said he does have the right to commit a crime because he is president. What sort of f***ed up value system do the Supremes have that they think the president should be held to a lower standard than the rest of us?
It's funny...haha
because it's ironic...
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So he could be impeached for extortion (against Zelenskyy) but it would be real difficult to prosecute him. Afterall, isn't extortion for personal gain an official Presidential action?
Yep. In the case, the witness intimidation, because it was referring to official business (the impeachment inquiry) would be, at least, presumptively immune. This just shows how foolish the Trump v. US decision was. It protects a whole lot of conduct that should not be protected, and Trump knows that.
Elon Musk promotes circlejerkarchy as ideal form of government,
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/elon-musk-trump-x-views-b2605907.html
If this is true, why does Elon Musk post and pass on so much bullshit? In fact he confuses clearly what people say (which is affected by consensus beliefs) and what people think.
This also completely misses the point of democracy and the rule of the law, which are meant to protect people from intimidation. That is exactly what he seems to be against.
With questions like free speech on Twitter he has often demonstrated acting in the opposite interest of what he claims to support.
Broadly, social conservatives do this continually in almost every area of public policy, as when conservatives claim they're all about capitalism, then support policies that damage everyone's finances but the already wealthy, as if the only real way to play Monopoly is to throw away the rule book.
Why does Elon post and pass on so much BS? He seems to be reenacting the life of Henry Ford. Fantastic business success convinces him he is wise in all things, which then has the paradoxical effect of making him stupid about most things.
+1000
"People who can’t defend themselves physically (women and low T men) parse information through a consensus filter as a safety mechanism"
Setting aside, of course, that "high T men" aren't any better at defending themselves against, say, car accidents, gunshots, knives, clubs, tasers, being attacked by 2+ people at once, etc. than the rest of humanity. So to the extent that this "strong men not scared all the time so make better decisions" theory ever applied at all, I guess it would have only applied to that narrow (and nonexistent) band of time before humans invented tools and teamwork but after we'd killed off all the saber toothed tigers and cave bears.
But, taking him at his word: it sounds like Musk is retracting his endorsement for the elderly DJT, since it's plain that Donald I-use-both-hands-to-drink-from-a-glass Trump can't defend himself physically from anything.
“Only high T alpha males and aneurotypical people (hey autists!) are actually free to parse new information with an objective ‘is this true?’ filter,” it adds.
I'm autistic, and I spent a good eight seconds parsing this not very new information with an objective ‘is this true?’ filter."
It's bullshit.
Those incels have a pretty high opinion of themselves. Poor personal hygiene does not equal high testosterone levels. Sorry edgelords.
Kamala Harris does not want to shut down Twitter
Nobody's perfect, but I'll vote for her anyway.
As a pretty much daily user of the app, I can think of nothing the government could do that would improve my life more than to shut down Twitter. Some people ask why, I look at things as they ought to be and ask why not.
Last year, after much hullabaloo, the government passed a bill to ban TikTok (if it's not sold), effective next April (or three months later). The explicit reason was that data could be used by a foreign adversary and that posed too great a national security risk. Also, said foreign adversary could pose a threat through swaying public opinion here. Can anyone explain how that would be true of TikTok and not Twitter? The only difference I see is that Elon Musk is not Chinese.
Elon would be Chinese in a heartbeat if it were convenient.
Lord knows, he owes enough of his fortune to Tesla's success in China.
I've hated Twitter/X from the beginning. Never opened an account. Never click on it. Twitter/X has done enormous damage to the human race.
It is good to see that Brasil is taking him down a peg & calling what he is.
Platforms should be legally obligated to promptly remove user accounts that break the law. They are already required to remove child pornography. Witness intimidation and incitement of violence should be no different.
Some would say an attempted coup counts as treason.
Even a shambling, half-assed, will no one rid me of this turbulent priest kind of coup.
Picking up on this subject, Brasil is shutting out Birdsite and The Verge picked up what most of us suspected about Musk and his actions.