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Our little gun bill is set to become law

A couple of weeks ago I said that gun regulation would never pass, but here we are: a bipartisan gun bill has passed the Senate and will pass the House today. It will then become law whenever President Biden decides to schedule a bill signing ceremony.

So Sen. Chris Murphy proved me wrong after all. Good for him! At this point, then, I guess I wonder what happened. Why did a bunch of Republicans suddenly decide to support a gun bill? It's not much of a gun bill, but that's never made a difference before. Why give Democrats a win of any size?

One possibility is that after Uvalde Republicans genuinely thought they needed something to keep middle-class suburban women in the fold, and this would do it. Or maybe they were attracted by the fact that the bill deals mostly with juveniles, who aren't exactly a big GOP constituency. Or maybe they felt like they needed a pre-election deal that proved they weren't just a bunch of obstructionists.

I don't know. Everything is a mystery these days. I feel like I don't know anything anymore.

24 thoughts on “Our little gun bill is set to become law

  1. drickard1967

    For what little good it will do, after the Bruen ruling... 500 quatloos the Federalist Five issue a ruling nullifying the law before Biden's signature is dry.

  2. kahner

    pretty sure it's option 1, keeping suburban women (and other republican voters of the same bent re: gun laws). i wouldn't be surprised if the NRA et al even signed off on it behind the scenes and agreed not to go after GOP senators who voted for it.

  3. KJK

    Who cares about a gun bill that does almost nothing, Roe v Wade was just shit-canned by the Theocrats of SCOTUS.

    Welcome to Gilead!

      1. MontyTheClipArtMongoose

        Babylonian Captivity.

        Timothy Dolan is prolly going to declare himself Pontifex Norteamericanus on Sunday.

  4. OrdoSeclorum

    It doesn't need to be just one thing. Some Republicans have wanted to support reasonable gun legislation for a long time, but they feared NRA retribution.

    The NRA seems to be a diminished organization right now. And I've got to believe that the Republican Senators who are susceptible to a primary challenger whose only qualification is that he pointed a gun at some black protesters have already been primaried.

    1. spatrick

      Indeed, recent polling showed Sen. Cornyn still enjoying over 60 percent support among rank n' file Texas Republicans. Truth is, most of the primary challenges from the fanatics (like those at the Texas GOP Convention which booed him) have pretty much fallen short this election year against already elected GOP officials.

      I also think the way Uvalde went down, the collapse of law enforcement at the scene, made enough GOP Senators realize something had to be done and it wouldn't surprise me if local and state police organizations gave them positive encouragement to so, more than enough to counter a diminished, carping NRA

  5. ctownwoody

    I'm kinda wondered what, if anything, Ginni told Coryn about the recent decision that "guns are fun and happy and historic" that her husband wrote. I'm not sure that the watered-down version of a watered-down compromise is still constitutional under Mr. Ginni Thomas's opinion,

  6. Austin

    "Why did a bunch of Republicans suddenly decide to support a gun bill?"

    So they can preen as moderate, while letting the same SCOTUS that threw all gun laws into question to kill it after the election.

  7. Austin

    "One possibility is that after Uvalde Republicans genuinely thought they needed something to keep middle-class suburban women in the fold, and this would do it."

    Middle Class Suburban Women: Come to the GOP for the unlimited guns, stay for the forced pregnancies!

      1. DFPaul

        The problem for the GOP is, as we saw with Trump in 2020, the key issue for their base is hatred of immigration and immigrants and Hispanics in particular. I would guess that for every Hispanic they win by being friendly or pro-Catholic or whatnot, they lose 3 of their base.

        So, no.

      2. Solar

        To an extent. Yes, they've made gains lately, but then, even today, when the fervor of "Hispanics are turning to Republicans" is at its peak, Republicans are only coming back to what used to be the usual Hispanic support they've always had, and which decreased by a lot during the Obama years. Hispanics, especially those who are 1st or 2nd generation Americans should be primed to be the base of the Republican party, yet the reason they aren't is because hatred for immigrants, especially the non-white ones, continues to be one of the biggest rallying cries for the GOP's base.

        1. DFPaul

          Whatever Hispanic "support" the GOP won under Trump only happened because he failed to "build the wall" -- and that was a fatal mistake by Trump (fatal in the sense he could never get re-elected without that promise and achievement). You can have the Wall or Hispanics. Not both. Their choice.

  8. Spadesofgrey

    Roe vs Wade overturned state abortion laws despite states at the time being overwhelmingly against it. Even now, it's 50/50 grey area. You people simply can't get that through your head. It's why overturning *gay marriage " "contraception" will be tougher by the Papists.

    Many people see abortion as a civil rights issue for the unborn. Considering it only squeaked through because they wanted black women to have abortions.....libtards don't respect history anymore than contards. Dialectical fantasy is the preferred method.

  9. D_Ohrk_E1

    Why did a bunch of Republicans suddenly decide to support a gun bill? It's not much of a gun bill, but that's never made a difference before. Why give Democrats a win of any size?

    Because it turns out that there are conservatives who detest the thought that we have to accept deaths as the price of 2A.

    But, in light of the recent Bruen decision, there isn't a single gun regulation that cannot be thrown out by a Christofacist-led SCOTUS. If we're led to believe that Americans need guns to protect their freedoms, it's apparent that these Christofascists hadn't thought through their decisions. Americans are going to increasingly look to guns to kill those who they think they're on the wrong side of the "Constitution" or otherwise feel personally offended.

    A future SCOTUS will have much work to do, to fix the contradictions and logical fallacies that these Christofascists have worked into their rulings, assuming the country does not collapse.

  10. shapeofsociety

    John Cornyn came out and said today that the NRA's "business model" would not allow them to support any legislation whatsoever. He phrased it politely, but it's a true rebuke: the NRA's total intransigence in the face of an obvious problem has destroyed its credibility. Once people figure out that you are irrational and unreasonable, they stop listening to you.

    Let this be a lesson to any issue organization that wants to maintain long-term effectiveness: stay in touch with reality and be willing to compromise if necessary. Be willing to admit it when there is a legitimate countervailing interest that needs to be balanced with yours. Being an angry maximalist may work for a while, but eventually it will destroy your reputation and then you will fail.

    1. KenSchulz

      No, as some others here have noted, Justice Thomas’s opinion in Bruen means no more compromise, ever, for gun fanatics. His argument is so expansive, it’s hard to see that how it would allow even the (almost-)ban on machine guns. There is no room in his reasoning for ‘legitimate countervailing interest’.

  11. Zephyr

    I have a feeling that even Republicans who are mostly opposed to gun control prefer to see their children live to be adults when they can start packing their own heat and become the good guys with the guns. Of course, the good guys with the guns, including the professionals, utterly failed at Uvalde. I also suspect the good ol' boys down at the diner and saloon aren't all that wild about the idea of everyone, including "those people," being able to carry at all times. One of the great failures of the New York gun permit system was that it gave a lot of discretion to law enforcement as to who could carry and who couldn't, and we all know who they don't like carrying. I suspect there's growing fear among the already cowardly who are big gun supporters that things have gone too far.

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