This is your periodic reminder that America's political problems are largely the fault of Fox News. The rage and fear that are the hallmarks of contemporary politics are rooted almost entirely in the rise of Fox News, which needs to be buried in the ash heap of history, where it belongs.
In the meantime, you should shun anyone who works for Fox News or appears as a guest on their shows. I don't care what they do, they are enabling an organization run by rich foreigners whose sole ambition is to wreck the United States in return for money. You should no more treat Fox employees as innocent bystanders than you would treat members of the CSA as ordinary loyal Americans. There are plenty of other jobs available that don't require you to be complicit in a predatory scheme to destroy the country.
Time to publicly shame them all.
For that to happen they'd need to know or be familiar with the meaning of the word "shame."
But seriously ... when are ANY of us likely to meet "Fox News employees"? Not to mention their "guests." So how would they even know they're being "shunned"?
Maybe "shunning" the products marketed by their advertisers? And to make sure, contacting said advertisers to let them know, and why? "Supply and demand" applies to the "Marketplace of Ideas", too. Why not?
Really? Your solution to the echo chamber is to shun it and stay the hell away from it?
Clearly you’re not understanding the point of the echo chamber eh
I'm not shunning Secretary Pete Buttigieg for instance.
The Breadman!
... Really shows the lack of creativity in the Movement Left that they never took to calling Pete that, like a rejected Marvel superhero.
The Breadman is a forward on the NY Rangers Hockey team. Artemi Panarin
The Democrats (and liberals in particular) have engaged with Fox News for decades on the peculiar assumption that the propaganda arm of the Republican Party would enable them to reach hardcore conservatives. Whatever the merits of this strategy, it has done nothing to promote the center left polices of the Democratic Party and it has done nothing to persuade Republicans to defect. Dominating the perfect token liberal foil has been a speciality of right wing media personalities since the days when Joe Pyne strutted his stuff on KTTV.
What that participation by Democrats and “serious journalists” has done is to legitimize Fox News as a journalistic endeavor when what the Democrats should have been doing was stigmatizing it as a crude propaganda outlet that shouldn’t be played in public places and on which journalists and others who don’t want to be branded as partisan Republicans would not appear.
I agree completely.
"an organization run by rich foreigners"
That's funny, I thought the Murdochs, and all of their Fox News employees were American citizens.
The Murdoch family are technically Americans. Why someone would agree to naturalize this country’s greatest enemy and most profound force for evil eludes me. And, regrettably, they will remain Americans until someone gets up the courage to dénaturaliser them as deport them, as with did with many of their ilk.
Also, it’s clear that the Trump was born in Russia and his birth certificate is an obvious forgery. He should be deported.
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Lachlan Murdoch has British citizenship.
Good. Deport him first.
Like that'd make a difference. One can micromanage from anywhere now. The Digger is supposed be isolating in his Cotswolds mansion behind "Andromeda Strain" level biosecurity, with the lovely Jerry.
Long life to him, though--Lachlan seems to be a bigger bastard than the old man.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lachlan-murdoch-is-even-more-of-a-right-wing-ultra-than-his-old-man
Once you strip them if their citizenship and deport them, there’s various legal difficulties with their ownership of broadcasting licenses and cable channels—all of which can be made into complete prohibitions with a little bit of sufficiently ruthless effort.
LOL
I’m pleased that I amuse you. Nevertheless, I’m actually quite serious. There’s a reason why western liberal states evolved complex systems of norms and law. Rules for thee but none for me is a system that exists only if one group is totally dominant or if the others groups are totally submissive.
If there’s no rules for 30-40% of Americans who are Republicans then soon there will be no rules for anyone and the 60-70% who are not Republicans will have their way. Remember, if there are no rules, there are no rules.
That includes the news side, not just the opinion side.
So-called "news side."
Being forced to watch it since I returned to the office, Kevin Is not over estimating the toxicity of Faux news. It’s a different world where the US has open borders to get future Dem voters in, to learn critical race theory, move to Chi ( or any big City) and murder people. All day long. A guy I work with started screaming at the TV like an insane person. I asked why would you watch something that aggravated you so much? “No one does anything about it!” Makes people crazy as a shithouse rat.
thank you....
Treat it as crystal meth. or addiction to said.
And the GOPers will turn it into a "he said she said" we can't really say situation...
Trying to snap people out of cults is hard.
Don't know your office situation, but if it's a matter of waiting room noise and color, find out what brand the TV or cable box is. You can tune a universal TV remote to anything these days. Change the channel to something calming like PBS Create when no one's looking.
That's exactly what we did at work pre-pandemic - we'd switch to HGTV, I felt having partisan news on in the break room TV was wrong, and I also felt a bit uncomfortable having MSNBC on but in the months before we all switched to telework, apparently many folks at the office were MSNBC fans and there were far fewer Fox news watchers, I think working in the Trump administration did that.
I certainly agree that Fox staff, guests, advertisers, all should be shunned like plague rats. And we should definitely pay more attention to the phenomenon of Fox. But attention TO Fox? Um ... no. Nothing positive can come of that.
Is Fox a cause, or an effect? The fact that it failed to thrive in Canada would suggest that Fox's success is more an effect of American politics than a cause of them.
Fox is aimed with laser focus at the particular madness of the Republican Party. That madness existed long before Fox; the "paranoid style in American politics" has been around for decades.
But Fox has taken that pre-existing insanity and amplified it to a thundering roar, all day, every day, all across Middle America. As a result, a minor chronic ailment of the American polity has turned into an acute and life-threatening disease.
Fox may have failed in Canada, but if you check the CBC site regularly, you may be dismayed by all of the hateful similarities of opinions and actions of some of their citizens. The percentage of lunatics & hatemongers doesn't rise to the level of ours, but it has surprised and saddened me.
Fox was forbidden in Canada actually, as I recall the authorities cited its continual broadcast of false news.
Fox News was never banned in Canada.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canadian-fox/
I'm not wrong in the sense that Murdoch was thwarted from forming a Fox New Canada, he really was. US Fox News does air in Canada though.
Maybe if the New York Times didn't fire any editor who ran an op-ed piece by a Republican Senator, there would be less market for Fox.
LOL! So the NYT causes Fox? Who knew?
Dumbest. Post. Ever.
You need to mention the Harper's Letter to truly reflect the kancellation kulture of the intolerant left.
So, should this "ad" be shown of Fox News?
https://www.cnet.com/news/heres-the-real-story-behind-that-funeral-home-anti-vaccine-ad/
The scheme is to make money. Destruction of the country is just a bonus.
Am seriously considering cutting cable and just relying on streaming services for my TV viewing. It makes my blood boil that I am actually supporting Fox even though I never watch it. That, and about 100 other cable channels...
Yes, do. You'll save a ton of money in the bargain. Unless you're a sports addict, one premium streaming channel is all you need. If I had to chose one, I'd pick Prime, because with it I can listen to radio stations through Alexa devices. Right now I'm listening to a classical radio station in Venice . . . Italy.
Make this go viral.
https://unfoxmycablebox.com/
"EVEN IF YOU NEVER WATCH FOX NEWS YOU'RE FUNDING THEIR PROGRAMMING!"
Post it with the least excuse; any discussion about FoxNews, especially when people talk about advertising boycotts.
Their advertising revenue barely covers the rugs for Carlson and Hannity.
Fox News should be made a la cart. If you want it, choose it. (Internet Packages frequently include Basic Cable, so even cord cutters might subsidize Fox News). They are killing Americans with lies.
If Fox threatens to pull their main network, Football and sports to force cable companies to pay for Fox News carriage fees, we ask the NFL and MLB and NCAA if they are happy that Fox is using them to spread health misinformation that KILLS CHILDREN.
Cable Providers should pull Fox News from the basic cable package. Only Fox viewers should subsidize Fox News.
(the obsession over Twitter and Facebook is absurd when you look at what is tolerated from Fox News. Twitter and Facebook insufficiently prevent random others from using their app to spread misinformation. Fox News choose to Spread Misinformation Themselves. It is like sending a killer's mother to prison for raising him badly while leaving the killer alone because he might one day give a journalist a job.)
Hah!
Arizona fraudit discovers Trump lost by an even larger number than official figures,
https://www.rawstory.com/arizona-cyber-ninjas-fraudit/
Thanks...can't wait to see how they'll spin it....
as the article noted, their "recount" is still nonsense.
Even with all their nonsense, they still couldn't get their desired results--so add in incompetence....
I can't decide if it was only the massive public scrutiny that brought about this result, or if they honestly, naively, thought they were on to something and proceeded in a straightforward manner.
Was the outcome intended, unintended or both?
What happens next time when these same kind of people will be able to use this as a precedent and face less scrutiny?
I think the results were entirely the product of intense public pressure and ridicule. Plus, huge pushback from the county. I think the feeling was that if they didn’t play it straight the Republican brand in Arizona was going to take a major hit.
But you raise an interesting question. Clearly the people at the top of this effort were grifters. There was a lot of money to be made and also was looked like a smart power grab by the Republicans in the state senate.
But what really is starting to intrigue me is the middle level players, street bosses, and soldiers. I was genuinely surprised when the talk radio guys and the clown lady got Covid-19 because I had assumed they were fully vaccinated, like the Fox New people. But they weren’t vaccinated at all. Yet, neither the revelations about Fox News and it vaccine passport system or the fact that the leading right wingers are vaccinated has made any inroads with the true believers.
I applaud Kevin's persistence it calling out Fox News for the malignant political force that it is. What is Fox News?
It is not news in any meaningful sense. Fox News is intense right-wing *tabloid* propaganda.
Kevin: "The rage and fear that are the hallmarks of contemporary politics are rooted almost entirely in the rise of Fox News ...
Tabloids get readers/viewers by always having the alarm bells ringing - for whatever is the latest development, good or bad. They emphasize dire scenarios, promote gossip, and engage in petty put-downs. Jill Biden appears on the cover of Vogue and “Fox And Friends Weekend” Co-host Rachel Campos-Duffy calls her out by declaring "she’s not very fashionable". That's typical.
Remember that Rupert Murdoch's origins are in the red-top Page 3 t*ts and bum business targeted at the dim-witted. Fox is the television equivalent.
That said, I've got to admit that I'm surprised at how anti-vaccine, pro-insurrection, and divisive it has become since the beginning of 2021. I'm astonished that Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham haven't been told by Fox management to tone it down. I've sampled Fox News (cable & website) for years and recently it has become even more un-tethered from reality.
Every Twitter/Facebook hearing about misinformation drives me crazy. Twitter Facebook insufficiently monitor random others who use their service to spread health misinformation. Fox News THEMSELVES actively spread misinformation by choice. How can you go after Twitter and Facebook without pointing out what Fox News does. It is like prosecuting a murderer's mother for raising a killer, while you let the killer walk free. Social Media misinformation is a problem, but Fox News is far more obvious, and is the source and the energy behind much of that same misinformation.
I guess it is because journalists and politicians know that one day they might want a job from Fox, so they don't want to piss off Fox News.
I could care less about progressive morons and they are a disgrace to the the name. Populism started in the Democratic party. We shall rise again.
They are terrorists. Drone strikes!
Burn it down, don’t pay attention to it.
Foxys, and those appearing on the *show*, are paid to lie .
What is the CSA? I tried looking it up but too many organizations have those initials.
Confederate States of America (1861-1865)
Sure, I'll just start giving Hannity the cold shoulder when he tries to make small talk at the next neighborhood cookout.
Silly.
Wait... Why would anyone ever treat members of the Canadian Space Agency as loyal Americans?
Shame and avoid not just Fox News, but all Fox products including NFL (NFC games) and the World Series. Its all the same owners. See if I can catch the Series on radio.