Only a third of Republicans think that COVID-19 vaccines are safe. But then again, they're also skeptical of flu and RSV vaccines. They just don't seem to trust vaccines much.
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When I meet a vaccine-skeptic Republican, I say, "Yes! You got that right. Ignore the nefarious Deep State and its Fake News lackeys. Stay pure, my friend."
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Moo cows are vaccinated for a number of things.
Conservatives need to put down the burger.
That's what's killing them.
2017 study: "Obese Democrats blame genetics; Normal weight Democrats and most Republicans blame lifestyle"
Citation???
It was on the internet.
Naturally they don't want to die suddenly and end up like those Canadian terrorists on the Rainbow Bridge.
They have flashbacks to "The Long Kiss Goodnight"...which is now a documentary???
Conservatives think they have a right to say anything that happens to wander through their head at any given moment and believe it, and insist that you believe it, as if it were literally true.
They believe the First Amendment gives them a license to never be wrong, and the Second Amendment gives them the right to kill anyone who disagrees with them because if you disagree with them you're the oppressor.
"They believe the First Amendment gives them a license to never be wrong, and the Second Amendment gives them the right to kill anyone who disagrees with them because if you disagree with them you're the oppressor."
How is this different from your response when someone has the temerity to disagree with you?
I'm not going to shoot them, do not think about it and would never threaten it.
People I have arguments with are people who are grossly non-convincing and are really working hard to be wrong, and that generally in a way to perpetuate a great deal of harm, for whatever kind of personal failing of their own they find their noxiousness so gratifying. And if I can help them not be wrong and get past whatever their issue is that's a day well spent.
For the record, I've been disagreeing with right-wingers here in (formerly) very red Arizona for 50 years. No one ever threatened to shoot me.
You must live in a very genteel neighborhood.
Those still exist, of course. Places where people who disagree can argue their points, and can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.
But there are sure a lot of the other kinds of places, too.
Well, promoting someone else's threats against someone else does let them think they're a step removed from culpability.
make a better argument....i.e. be very annoying
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There is little point in trying to communicate with a person who cannot distinguish between "argue with" and 'threaten".
Kevin,
Is historical data available for this? How this changed over time?
Thanks, Jim
If you want a history of measles cases, see this chart. Jimmy Carter inherited a spike in cases and got funding to made immunizations a priority. Measles came way, way down. With funding cut under Reagan and Bush, cases spiked again.
I got measles in the beginning of 1991. It put me in the hospital and nearly killed me. (I was in my 30s. Kids fare better.) I'd been vaccinated, though with a less-effective vaccine from many years before. When fewer people get their shots, the risks rise for everybody.
Ditto, when people vote for Republicans.
Infectious disease, cheap cigarettes, lack of seatbelt law enforcement, lack of health care . . . Red America is killing itself off at a rapid clip.
...and want to take everyone with them for the ride.
It's fine. If people want to take some risks, what's it to you? Every poll these days is a measure of partisanship. The questions are irrelevant.
They should ask republican cancer patients if they think their treatments are effective or just a scam to waste their money! Stop the treatments! Inject bleach and ivermectin instead.
If people want to risk catching a highly contagious ailment, what's it to me, you ask? It's important to me and anyone else who comes into contact with them.
Flu shots have never been mandatory. Are you going to arrest them if they refuse? No, you are not. So get over it.
Yeah, all Typhoid Mary wanted was her freedom.
Darwinian natural selection, baby. Oh wait. They don't believe Darwin, either.
While I tend to agree, I think it may be that they don't believe in Darwin because a potential process like that takes too much brain power for them. Judging from the way they "govern", I would suggest consequences more than one level are a problem.
Kevin still hasn't explained why the UK and much of Europe have not allowed those under 65 or 50, depending on the country, to take an mRNA booster unless an exception. There are no vaccine shortages, either. Then again, there was the Danish study in spring of 2022 that showed that before Omicron, the risk in health to those under 50 in taking an mRNA was greater than the benefit.
There is no issue with mRNA vaccines in the EU. Scientific agencies have found Covid vaccines to be very safe and effective.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/covid-19-medicines/safety-covid-19-vaccines
In France, to give one example, people over 65 and those with comorbitities are being specifically advised to get a new Covid vaccine (along with seasonal flu), but anyone who wants an updated shot can get one if they haven't had Covid in the past six months.
Oh you mean the anti vaxxer you're responding to was spewing false information? I'm shocked!
Of course there is an issue as many countries won't allow those under 65 or 50 to get a booster shot.
Sept 14 (Reuters) - The European regulator's advisory panel on Thursday recommended authorising an updated COVID-19 vaccine from Moderna (MRNA.O), putting it on track to become the second shot to be used in the EU countries' vaccination campaign this autumn.
The updated shot, branded Spikevax, to target the dominant XBB.1.5 variant of Omicron was recommended for use in adults and children aged 6 months and above.
Earlier this month, the European Commission authorised an updated COVID-19 vaccine from Pfizer (PFE.N) and its German partner BioNtech (22UAy.DE) for the same population.
The European Medicines Agency's (EMA) advisory panel recommended that everyone above 5 years of age should receive the shot, irrespective of their COVID vaccination history.
For children 6 months to 4 years of age, the panel recommended they receive one or two doses of the updated Moderna shot based on whether they have completed a primary vaccination course or were previously infected.
The updated shots from both Moderna and Pfizer have been authorized for use in the United States and pharmacy chains CVS Health (CVS.N) and Walgreens Boots Alliance (WBA.O) have said they expect the shots to be available in their stores as early as this week.
Citation???
Never saw THAT coming.
It's clearly become a marker of political tribalism for Republicans to hate science and say vaccines are evil. It's funny, because vaccine skepticism used to be a fringe thing on the far left in most cases -- and indeed, it appears that around 15% of Democrats are still with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. on this.
I have been impressed watching people who have been getting vaccines for themselves and their children all their lives who have suddenly discovered that vaccines will make a second head sprout from your shoulders.
A second head? Wouldn't that be a good thing?
Tribal identity has been used very effectively to change the nature of religion as well. You basically can't be Christian in the USA anymore unless you believe abortion is murder, homosexuality is unnatural, sex is purely for procreation, and everyone not adhering to gender norms is mentally ill.
It's fine with me if repulsives self destruct.
If too many people don't get vaccinated it can cause epidemics. Your health can be at risk because other people don't vaccinate.
Suppose you get the disease in the next epidemic, but the hospitals are already full because of Republicans (and Kennedyites) who are much more likely to get it?
Why has the left failed so hard with public health during Covid?
Why haven't you stopped lying?
Pakistani Taliban tries to shake down China,
https://www.thepost.co.nz/world-news/350119173/pakistani-taliban-threatens-attack-chinas-belt-and-road-route-unless-tax-paid
Demands 'tax'.
Really just gangsterism with a gimmick, and not much of a gimmick.
I always wonder how many of the anti-vaxxers are just needle phobic and glomm on to any theory about vaccine danger because it is easier to claim a "scientific" reason for refusal rather than to admit they have this phobia (i.e. they are cowards).
Nah. It's pure political performativity. If I had to, I'd bet a not inconsiderable number of them probably are actually taking the vaccine, but then telling their friends and (especially) pollsters that they don't believe in them because that's what MAGA Republicans are *supposed* to say to look cool or something.
See also: abortions.
It gives them incredible anxiety because it demonstrates with a little jab how not in control of their own biology they are and they'd rather fight than quit.
New Zealand conservatives come out as strongly pro-cancer,
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67540190
The vaccine can cause problems. My son had a bad reaction to the 3rd pfizer vaccine - he had had taken the first two without a problem. When they doctor saw his arm, he told my son not to get any more covid shots. My son is convinced that that vaccine gave him covid...don't know if the doctor agrees with that or not. He had a pretty bad case of the disease, but no hospitalization and no lasting effects.
I am sorry your son had a bad reaction. This is an anecdotal horror story though. One that anti-vexer's use to push their beliefs. Every medical treatment has a potential for an individual bad reaction. They list lots of them in their medical literature. It's the nature of medicine. There's no way to give any treatment to millions of people without bad reactions happening.
CAbornandbred is correct -- no vaccine (or medical treatment of any kind) is going to be 100% free of any side effects or bad outcomes, particularly when we're talking about millions and millions of doses. But the Covid vaccines are just about as close as we can get. People routinely take prescription medicines or have elective surgeries with a far higher risk of bad side effects than any vaccine. It's also physiologically impossible to have gotten Covid from an mRNA vaccine -- it doesn't work by using an inert form of the pathogen like some earlier conventional vaccines; instead, it trains the body's immune system to recognize a certain kind of protein that mimics the surface of the coronavirus cell and attack it.
if he was having lung issues, etc., it's likely he acquired covid shortly after getting the shot
Thanks. I'll pass this info on to my son.
You cannot get Covid from a mRNA vaccine, as it does not contain RNA for the entire virus, just for the spike protein. Vaccines do contain adjuvants, which are responsible for most of the side effects. Adjuvants are things that intentionally excite the immune system to enhance the body's immune response to the vaccine.
The Cleveland Clinic showed in 2022 that the more mRNA shots one takes, the more likely they will get Covid because immunity drops notably after each shot.
The Cleveland Clinic doesn't seem to think they showed that in 2022. At least, they don't appear to mention that research finding at https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/procedures/covid-vaccine, which seems like a pretty big omission on their part IF you are accurately describing the idea that repeated COVID vaccinations make it more likely that one will catch COVID as the official position of the Cleveland Clinic.
Fake news! There have been NO bad reactions to mRNA vaccines, you MAGA supporter!!
When did RSV become a thing? I never heard of it before this year, and now I hear about it *all* the time.