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The Republican Party is picking off Democrats

UPDATE: This report is probably wrong. More here.


The Associated Press reports that about 1.7 million voters switched to a different political party in 2021:

Over the last year, roughly two-thirds of the 1.7 million voters who changed their party affiliation shifted to the Republican Party. In all, more than 1 million people became Republicans compared to about 630,000 who became Democrats.

Why so many new Republicans?

Ben Smith, who lives in suburban Larimer County, Colorado, north of Denver, said he reluctantly registered as a Republican earlier in the year after becoming increasingly concerned about the Democrats’ support in some localities for mandatory COVID-19 vaccines, the party’s inability to quell violent crime and its frequent focus on racial justice....“It’s more so a rejection of the left than embracing the right,” said Smith.

....39-year-old homemaker Jessica Kroells says she can no longer vote for Democrats, despite being a reliable Democratic voter up until 2016....“The party itself is no longer Democrat, it’s progressive socialism,” she said, specifically condemning Biden’s plan to eliminate billions of dollars in student debt.

I don't know if this is typical, but it jibes with my personal experience. Among people who are a little fuzzy about their party ID, many of them find the Democratic Party scarier than the Republican Party. Given the state of the modern GOP, that's quite an indictment.

94 thoughts on “The Republican Party is picking off Democrats

  1. KinersKorner

    Weren’t there a bunch of party switchers in some states to either elect or thwart Magats?
    Or was that only cross over voter States where either party can vote in a primary for either party?

    1. bebopman

      Dem groups have spent millions on tv ads “promoting” the worst Republicans in the primary. “Too conservative for Colorado! Supporter of Trump! Believes Biden election was fraud!” There are enough Republican wackos in Colorado that those are good things. And Dems would like the wackos to win the primary. I don’t like this interference, by the way. But at least the Dem ads for wackos Republicans don’t lie about their beliefs.

      (There is another set of ads criticizing some moderate Republicans as having once supported Dems. I don’t know if those ads are true.)

      1. bebopman

        Forgot to add: Because of the millions spent on tv ads, wouldn’t be surprised if there was organized effort for Dems to vote in gop primary (which I used to do when I lived in texas). But unaffiliateds are allowed to vote in primaries here so joining gop isn’t necessary.

  2. skeptonomist

    Again, most people will no longer admit to being white supremacists, so they have to come up with an excuse for supporting Trump and other Republicans. There is no question whatsoever that many millions of people are finding it scary that non-whites are becoming so numerous and that the "white race" may be losing its dominance. Republicans have been winning elections for the last half-century using culture-war issues, not economic issues, and nothing has happened to change this. In fact the appeal to racism has become even more blatant, in considerable part because of Kevin's bete noir, Fox News. Republicans have always used anti-communist and anti-socialist rhetoric, but that appeal actually lost importance with the demise of the main national rival, the Soviet Union. Calling Democrats socialists is routine for Republicans, but their real appeal to lower-income whites is based on using cultural issues to distract from economic issues.

    Some things that extremists have been calling for, like "defund the police" may be losing votes for Democrats, but Republicans don't need any particular such issues to stir up reaction among those who think that their racial privilege is being lost.

    1. RZM

      The vast majority of Americans, right, left and center do not admit, indeed do not believe they are white supremacists. Calling the people who are worried about rising crime (yes, it get wildly over emphasized in all our media, not just Fox) and inflation (ditto ) and object to "defund the police " or worry about the cost of completely eliminating student debt by executive order white supremacists is two things
      1) politically stupid
      2) a form of self satisfied moral preening that is obnoxious

      Of course some people who are nervous about the direction of the Democratic Party are ignorant and more bigoted than they like to admit, but your line of assumptions will get us absolutely nowhere imho.

      1. MattBallAZ

        You are right, RZM. Slamming people isn't helping. These are people who, in 2020 were registered Dems. We are losing them. This is on us to fix.

        1. KenSchulz

          It’s on us to get votes wherever we can find them, without compromising on our ideals and values. Certainly we can compromise on particular measures that advance us toward our goals, however haltingly, as Democrats did to get a gun-violence measure passed. It’s quite weak, but it’s not nothing, and it’s what could be achieved at the moment.
          I’m doubtful that someone who became a Republican in part because of the Democrats’ “frequent focus on racial justice” is ever coming back. There are others more likely, I suspect.

      2. Lounsbury

        And indeed the path to losing badly and thus actually making life worse for the very people ostentatiously set-up as the object of concern.

        But Activist style ideological purity over the harder work of convincing, the labour organiser work, of winning over, and even heaven forbid, compromising on some ideologically pure points .

    2. Atticus

      So you think the people quoted are lying and switching to the GOP is just because they are racists? If so, that putting your head in the sand is a recipe for a repeat of 2016.

      1. MontyTheClipArtMongoose

        The woman who switched said the party is "no longer Democrat, it's progressive socialism". But what 39 year old person, an alleged Democrat until 2016 (& the assertion seems to imply 'since eligible to vote', so a Democrat for 16 years, from 2000), would say it was a Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party? I suspect she was never a Democrat.

        & the man's complaints were straightout the Andy Ngo-Richard Spencer playbook of white nationalism. He was never anything but a Lester Maddox Democrat, either. (So, maybe he voted for Bernie.)

  3. luigidaman

    ...increasingly concerned about the Democrats’ support in some localities for mandatory COVID-19 vaccines, the party’s inability to quell violent crime and its frequent focus on racial justice.

    .“The party itself is no longer Democrat, it’s progressive socialism,”

    Hmmmm. Sounds like last night's Fox broadcast to me.

    1. tdbach

      It sure does. Not sure of the validity of this data. How many of these respondents were GOP-leaning independents or Republicans before switching to registered Democrats because of local election interests, only to switch back when those interests no longer applied? This expressed rationale sounds like already well-embedded propaganda.

        1. Lounsbury

          Wishful thinking, denialism, and excuse making all together, to avoid admission of bad strategy, of strategic overreach in a classic Bridge Too Far mode.

        2. tdbach

          Not sure how this is "wishful thinking." I'm not suggesting we couldn't do a lot better at representing our plans and accomplishments to the public at large, only that this representation of the mindset of "converted" Democrats sounds suspiciously like long-standing RW talking points. Does that mean the RW is breaking through while we're not? I don't see this stuff in the mainstream media - at least not expressed this way. But I do on Fox News or NewsMax.

          1. MontyTheClipArtMongoose

            +1 former Democrat in an Atlanta suburb in an Elaina Plottz article for the Sulzberger Advertiser

    2. lawnorder

      There is little to be done about people whose vote is decided by figments of their imagination. I personally favor mandatory vaccination for covid and a bunch of other diseases. However, I am not aware of a single person, Republican or Democrat, in a position of power or authority who agreed with me, and I've been watching for them.

  4. DFPaul

    Surely some of this is the Trump effect fading away. The more the Jan. 6 committee hammers him and makes him unviable for '24, the more the country club set breathes a sigh of relief and rejoins the Republicans. Probably orders another martini too.

    I do wish, though, that the Dems would tout their economic record more and force the MSM to admits jobs/stock market/deficits are all better under Dems. I imagine that would staunch the flow of a few of the country-clobbers.

    1. RZM

      Yes and yes. I wish the Dems would be much more forthright and unapologetic about the ways they have and are improving lives of the average American.

  5. 7g6sd2fqz4

    Sure, but an indictment on whom? If “a frequent focus on racial justice” is a step too far for someone, were they ever really left leaning in their politics?

    1. Atticus

      You don’t think it’s possible to go too far with “racial justice”? You think the far left wing of the Democratic Party is in sync with mainstream America on these issues?

      1. Gweskin

        You don’t think it’s possible to go too far with “racial justice”?
        First, we would have to go someplace before we go to far...
        .
        You think the far left wing of the Democratic Party is in sync with mainstream America on these issues?
        What is this far left wing of the Democratic party? I want to meet it. How many members of this far left wing hold political office?

        In my experience, what Americans call far left wing is your standard slightly left of center European politician.

            1. lawnorder

              When it comes to things like positions on the ideological spectrum, politics is global. American politics HAS NO LEFT WING. The American eagle is the only bird in the world with two right wings.

              1. Atticus

                It’s not global. We’re taking about American politics. How certain positions here compare to Europe is irrelevant. No impact to us.

        1. dotkaye

          this is correct. After immigrating to the USA as a moderate social democrat, I was dazed and confused to find myself on the far left of US politics, with only Bernie Sanders for company..

      2. 7g6sd2fqz4

        Why in the world should anyone who’s interested in racial justice worry about being aligned with mainstream America on the issue? Like, that’s the whole thing, man.

  6. Jasper_in_Boston

    Over the last year, roughly two-thirds of the 1.7 million voters who changed their party affiliation shifted to the Republican Party.

    I'd be very surprised if party registration growth doesn't normally go against the White House parry in the runup to midterms.

  7. FirstThirtyMinutes

    Freedom. Opportunity. Equality. Democrat.

    Every Dem party item fits under one of these tenets, and who can argue with that?

    The Democrat message in general is muddled. They should get some “Got Milk?” people in there.

    Another thing I would do is aggressively rebrand the American flag. It should be on every press release, letterhead, and campaign sign from the top all the way down to City Council. Let “flag-waving” mean Democrat. If the other party want their own flag, let them have the confederate.

    1. Atticus

      Don’t leftists think the Marxian flag is racist? (Or patriarchal or represents colonialism or misogyny or…)

  8. raoul

    I really hate anectodes that try to prove a point. So Mrs. Kroells probably voted for a Dem president once so she is indicative of what exactly. More to the point, a plurality of 370,000 more Reps switching when the incumbent is a Dem sounds about right. The article quotes Virginia as one of the states with significant change. I can tell you that Virginia remains pretty Dem, so that seems like a false indicator. Now there are some places that indeed have seen major Rep growth so we need to see the particulars of those particular places.

    1. aldoushickman

      "I can tell you that Virginia remains pretty Dem, so that seems like a false indicator"

      Virginia has a Republican governor, and Republicans control the Virginia House of Delegates, so I wouldn't be so sure of that.

  9. Solar

    Come on Kevin, has your conservatism bent made you really this dense to not see the Grand Canyons inconsistencies in the article?

    "Why so many new Republicans?"

    What new Republicans? The two examples listed, and which you emphasized are both people who seemed to have made the switched all the way back in 2016 if not further back. (I wonder why you left out those parts). For example for Ben Smith's case:

    "“It’s more so a rejection of the left than embracing the right,” said Smith, a 37-year-old professional counselor whose transition away from the Democratic Party began five or six years ago when he registered as a libertarian."

    Then there is Jessica Kroelles:
    "There was not a single “aha moment” that convinced her to switch, but by 2020, she said the Democratic Party had “left me behind.”"

    Really? A registered Libertarian for the last five or six years, and someone who seems to be a Trumper since 2016 are the best examples they can find of "new" Republicans in 2021?

    Not to mention that throughout the whole thing, they conflate people who switched parties years before 2021 with those that only did so in 2021, and acknowledge that even in 2021 it is not clear the reason for people switching (like many Democrats switching to Republican in order to derail Trump aligned candidates during primaries).

    The entire thing reads like the usual 10%/90% mix of out of context half truths and made up fantasies that Fox News spouts regularly.

    1. jdubs

      Just to be clear, the article says that the data comes from 43 or 42 states (they aren't sure?) and includes modeling estimates to guesstimate how many people have switched parties in the unnamed 42 or 43 states.

      1. Solar

        Yes, it is a mess of an article that shouldn't have seen the light of day, since it really doesn't say anything other than: "We think Republicans will do better than Democrats in the coming election", and to support that they do a whole lot of hand waving that to pretend they have solid evidence to support the alarming premise, when the reality is that nearly every time, the party not controlling the WH does better. So they aren't really breaking any news, and they really aren't providing anything substantive in terms of analysis.

      2. spatrick

        and includes modeling estimates to guesstimate how many people have switched parties in the unnamed 42 or 43 states.

        Oh yuck! What a joke! Guesstimates?

  10. jamesepowell

    Kevin, you are spending too much time watching FOX and/or talking to people who watch FOX.

    There is absolutely nothing socialist about the Democratic Party.

    For most white Americans, mentioning racial justice at all is too often.

  11. cephalopod

    A lot of the issues that are big news on the left are pretty likely to rile people up on an emotional level: Debt forgiveness, trans rights visibility, crime/policing, behavioral choices. And for all the statistics you can pull out, there are plenty of anecdotes that reinforce people's fear and anxiety. And we have had nothing but fear and anxiety for years now, between covid, Russia, and inflation.

    And anxiety makes people run for the familiar and feelings of security. For a lot of people, the GOP feels like a step back into a secure past. It also tells a lot of people that they are okay just as they are, in all their white-skinned, unmasked, unvaxxed, gender-conforming selves. Who doesnt want to be told they are just fine as they are? The Dems certainly try to tell POC and LGBTQ+ that message. Unfortunately, everyone else wants that same message, too.

  12. cld

    Anyone who registered as a Republican in the past year doesn't deserve the respect it would take not to spit in their face.

  13. cld

    If you want to focus peoples' attention, give them an enemy.

    Republicans are the enemy of all life and all humanity.

  14. mudwall jackson

    interesting note: the npr newshour/marist generic congressional poll had the republicans up 47-44 in april. the latest numbers: 48-41 percent democrats. that's a 10-point swing post jan. 6 hearings and post dobbs.

    1. Joseph Harbin

      Sorry, this is a post about the sorry state of the Democratic Party. Evidence to the contrary was not requested and is off-limits.

    2. roboto

      The NPR poll is likely bogus.

      538 had Republicans up by 2.4% points during April, May, which fell to a 2.2% point lead in mid June but Republicans were still up 1.9% yesterday.

  15. aaall1

    The reasons these folks give shows that they are caught up in a Fox News/social media silo. Probably no way to fix that.

  16. kahner

    looking at mr. smith's reasons for switching parties i have these responses.

    mandatory COVID-19 vaccines - you're an idiot
    the party’s inability to quell violent crime - you're an idiot
    and its frequent focus on racial justice - you're an asshole

    now i'm sure kevin thinks we need to compromise to retain this voter, but as usual my question is how? by allowing the worst pandemic in 100 years to kill millions more people? by magically eliminating violent crime? or by embracing racism and ignoring police brutality and murders against people of color?

      1. iamr4man

        If Republican Florida had Democrat California’s death rate 25,000 Floridians would still be alive. This is a real life difference in policies and points to the failure of the Republican anti mask anti vaccine position.
        The violent crime rate is not going up. It is going down. Murder is up though, and that began with Trump.
        Racism continues to be a major problem in this country with many Republicans embracing it to pander to the Republican base. If Democrats didn’t recognize this and try to do something about it, why should minorities support them?
        Why do I never see any articles on the Republican failure to get more than 10% of the black vote? Where are Republican attempts to address their concerns?

        1. Atticus

          So you think all the DAs in democratic cities are doing everything they can to stop crime?

          As for Covid, you can slice and dice numbers to support any position you want. Florida’s death rate was not any worse than most other big states even though our avaerage age is higher. Our business and schools were open while other states were still quarantining and kids losing a year or more of education. There is no question that the right decisions were made here in Florida and it’s one of the reasons Floridians are so thankful for DeSantis. (Personally I have a problem with some of his decisions, both covid and non-covid related, but overall I think he’s done an excellent job.)

    1. aldoushickman

      If you think that saying "you're an idiot . . . you're an idiot . . . you're an asshole" to people who switch from Dem to Repub is a good strategy to win elections, I'd be interested in your theory as to how that would work.

        1. akapneogy

          That's exactly right. Trying to view everything through the prism of "message strategy" just gives one astigmatism.

      1. typhoon

        Amen. The Democratic go-to response to Republican leadership since 1980 has been they are stupid (Reagan, W, Trump) or stupid and senile (Regan and Trump). That’s not how you win friends and influence enemies.

        Further, Democrats as a party needs to take a page from the January 6 committee, which has been very effective as they have followed a streamlined approach, focusing hard on just a few core issues that resonate with the public. And they have avoided a lot of needless bloviating.

        Democrats shouldn’t try to be everything to every increasingly small demographic. Democrats have a good story to tell versus the Republicans if they can focus on a few main themes. What are those few themes? I don’t know, but I’d suggest something like: 1) Golden Rule: we believe in treating others as we like to be treated…that means not just minorities, but the white laborer, etc. Republicans are all about hate; Democrats are about working for all. 2) economic equality: there is too much inequality. Republicans and democrats both know this, but Democrats want to address it. 3) Security. democrats are for security of the nation versus outside forces, by forging and bolstering alliances. We are for internal security - security from hard crime (a weakness today), economic/white-collar crime, from deadly viruses, from crumbling infrastructure, from government intrusion into your bedroom, from climate change, etc. This also means from illegal immigration. 4) optimism about the future, as the world’s leading democracy and arguably the most diverse, multi-cultural Yes, there are many challenges, but we can address them. We don’t need to go back to 1955 and we don’t need to demonize half the country.

    1. Joseph Harbin

      Did anybody ask for a fair assessment of what's going on? I don't think so.

      Kevin said: "I don't know if this is typical, but it jibes with my personal experience." IOW, he will cherry-pick data and cherry-pick quotes that support his narrative, whether it's true or not.

      1. MontyTheClipArtMongoose

        Forgive Kevin. He just had a really good lunch with his GQPer friend from Irvine at Panera Bread.

  17. akapneogy

    Good riddance! They'll now be flying their true colors. They are probably the reason polling errors have lopsidedly favored Republicans in the recent past. I expect negligible impact on voting patterns.

  18. asmithumd

    This article does not say anything about anything. In a world where older people tend to be more conservative, party switching will always tend to favor the conservative party. New first-time voters (young and immigrants) tend to favor the liberal party, as will the loss of voters due to death. Only when one considers all these effects, can she conclude one way or another how the country is trending.

    Every year 4 million people under 30 are switching to the older than 30 group. I guess being under 30 is becoming unpopular.

  19. akapneogy

    "Among people who are a little fuzzy about their party ID, many of them find the Democratic Party scarier than the Republican Party. Given the state of the modern GOP, that's quite an indictment."

    You are quite right that the state of the modern GOP should elicit deep concern and incredulity. And it is an indictment of people who are still a little fuzzy about their party ID; but I don't think that's what you meant.

    1. Gweskin

      Among people who are a little fuzzy about their party ID, many of them find the Democratic Party scarier than the Republican Party. Given the state of the modern GOP, that's quite an indictment.

      Let me help them. According to Saint Ronnie, the States are the laboratories of Democracy, let's look at the results:

      HEALTH
      Life Expectancy:
      The ten states with the longest life expectancies are:
      Hawaii - 81.5 years D
      California - 81.0 years D
      Minnesota - 80.8 years D
      New York - 80.7 years D
      Connecticut - 80.6 D
      New Jersey - 80.4 D
      Colorado - 80.0 D
      Washington - 80.0 D
      Massachusetts - 79.9 D
      Vermont - 79.9 D
      The ten states with the lowest life expectancies are:
      Mississippi - 74.6 R
      West Virginia - 74.9 R
      Alabama - 74.9 R
      Kentucky - 75.1 R
      Arkansas - 75.4 R
      Oklahoma - 75.5 R
      Louisiana - 75.5 R
      Tennessee - 76.1 R
      South Carolina - 76.2 R
      Ohio - 76.6 R

      Infant Mortality Rate by State 2021:
      Here are the 10 states with the lowest infant mortality:
      Massachusetts (3.7) D
      Washington (3.9) D
      California (4) D
      North Dakota (4) R
      New Hampshire (4.2) R
      Colorado (4.5) D
      New Jersey (4.5) D
      Idaho (4.6) R
      New York (4.6) D
      Minnesota (4.8) D
      Here are the 10 states with the highest infant mortality:
      Mississippi (9) R
      Arkansas (8) R
      South Dakota (8) R
      Oklahoma (7.7) R
      Alabama (7.4) R
      Tennessee (7.4) R
      Indiana (7.3) R
      Georgia (7.2) R
      Ohio (7.2) R
      Louisiana (7.1) R

      Maternal Mortality Rate by State 2021
      Here are the 10 states with the highest maternal mortality:
      Louisiana (58.1 per 100k) R
      Georgia (48.4 per 100k) R
      Indiana (43.6 per 100k) R
      New Jersey (38.1 per 100k) D
      Arkansas (37.5 per 100k) R
      Alabama (36.4 per 100k) R
      Missouri (34.6 per 100k) R
      Texas (34.5 per 100k) R
      South Carolina (27.9 per 100k) R
      Arizona (27.3 per 100k)) D
      Here are the 10 states with the lowest maternal mortality:
      California (4 per 100k) D
      Massachusetts (8.4 per 100k)D
      Nevada (8.4 per 100k) D
      Connecticut (10.5 per 100k) D
      Colorado (11.5 per 100k) D
      Minnesota (11.8 per 100k) D
      Alaska (12.4 per 100k) R
      Oregon (12.8 per 100k) D
      Hawaii (12.9 per 100k) D
      West Virginia (12.9 per 100k) R

      Obesity Rate by State 2021
      The ten states with the lowest obesity rates are:
      Colorado 23.80% D
      District of Columbia 23.80% D
      Hawaii 25.00% D
      Massachusetts 25.20% D
      California 26.30% D
      Vermont 26.50% D
      Florida 27.00% R
      New York 27.10% D
      New Jersey 27.30% D
      Washington/Montana 28.30% D/R
      Here are the 10 states with the highest rates of obesity:
      Mississippi 40.80% R
      West Virginia 39.70% R
      Arkansas 37.40% R
      Oklahoma 36.80% R
      Kentucky 36.50% R
      Tennessee 36.50% R
      Alabama 36.10% R
      Michigan 36.00% R
      Louisiana 35.90% R
      South Carolina 35.40% R

      EDUCATION
      State Ranking by Education
      According to the Department of Education’s Nation’s Report Card these are the 10 highest states in eighth-grade reading scores.
      Massachusetts D
      New Jersey D
      Connecticut D
      Vermont D
      New Hampshire R
      Utah R
      Wisconsin R
      Colorado D
      Ohio R
      Idaho R
      This list shows the states with the lowest eighth-grade reading scores with New Mexico having the worst scores in the nation.
      Oklahoma R
      Hawaii D
      Nevada D
      Louisiana R
      Mississippi R
      Texas R
      West Virginia R
      Alabama R
      Alaska R
      New Mexico D

      Most & Least Educated States in America
      10 most educated states
      Massachusetts D
      Maryland D
      Connecticut D
      Vermont D
      Colorado D
      Virginia D
      New Jersey D
      New Hampshire R
      Minnesota D
      Washington D
      10 least educated states
      Oklahoma R
      Kentucky R
      Alabama R
      Arkansas R
      New Mexico D
      South Carolina R
      Nevada D
      Louisiana R
      Mississippi R
      West Virginia R
      INCOME
      Median Household Income by State 2021
      Here are the 10 states with the highest median household income:
      Maryland $84,805 D
      New Jersey $82,545 D
      Hawaii $81,275 D
      Massachusetts $81,215 D
      Connecticut $78,444 D
      Alaska $77,640 R
      New Hampshire $76,768 R
      California $75,235 D
      Virginia $74,222 D
      Washington $73,775 D
      Here are the 10 states with the lowest median household income:
      Tennessee $53,320 R
      South Carolina $53,199 R
      Oklahoma $52,919 R
      Kentucky $50,589 R
      Alabama $50,536 R
      New Mexico $49,754 D
      Louisiana $49,469 R
      Arkansas $47,597 R
      West Virginia $46,711 R
      Mississippi $45,081 R

      Best states to raise a family in 2022: report
      Here are the best states to raise a family in 2022 according to WalletHub.
      Massachusetts D
      New York D
      Vermont D
      Minnesota D
      Nebraska R
      New Hampshire R
      Connecticut D
      Washington D
      North Dakota R
      New Jersey D
      Here are the 10 worst states to raise a family in 2022
      Georgia R
      Nevada D
      Alabama R
      Arkansas R
      West Virginia R
      Oklahoma R
      South Carolina R
      Louisiana R
      New Mexico D
      Mississippi R

      Basically, if you are an average American with an income under a few hundred grand a year, you should be a Democrat especially if you want to live a long healthy comfortable life.

      1. Jasper_in_Boston

        Basically, if you are an average American with an income under a few hundred grand a year

        I'd place the income ceiling a lot higher than that. Basically all the way to infinity.

        Only Klan members and mid-career fossil fuel executives could possibly have a rational self-interest in voting Republican. In other words, rich people, too, are better off under liberalism. How do the wealthy benefit (on net) from the kind of rank dysfunctionality brought about by right wing policies?

        Sure, the IRS might take a higher percentage of your income if Democratic Party policies prevail. But it's not as if the rich are hurting in any meaningful way under center-left governance. Is an extra three or five points of a 7/8 figure income really worth inaction on climate change, crappy public services, higher levels of poverty, racism and gun massacres—and the very real possibility of a descent into authoritarianism? (Ask Jack Ma how that last bit works out for rich folk). You can't live like a king on 11.3 million a year; you need 13.4 million?

        I really don't get the calculus of affluent folks who vote Republican. Seems incredibly myopic.

  20. samgamgee

    It's an indictment of the ignorance so many folks have regarding the actual political parties. Headline consumers is basically what they are and why we have someone like Trump get elected.

  21. Zephyr

    Boy, I guess it depends on where you live. The people I talk to in places I spend a lot of time are either one side or the other and nobody is switching to the GOP. The only switchers are Republicans fed up with Trumpism and the nonsense of today's GOP, and there are a bunch of staunch Republicans secretly voting for Dems. I have literally never talked to a Dem who says they are switching to the GOP. But, there are lots of Dems that don't vote, and they are even more infuriating.

  22. n1cholas

    Just a quick detour from the hand-wringing, but society is collapsing and there is literally nothing that can be done to stop it. Nothing.

    The collapse can be mitigated to some extent to make it slightly less terrible, but it's about 40 years too late to prevent. And in a lot of respects, humans are actually accelerating the process, on purpose. Some people call it "GDP", but it's just a receipt for the world resources that we've burned up, with the majority of the benefits accruing to the richest people who have ever lived.

    So, we can talk about how Democrats are supposed to talk real nice to fucking fascist shitbags who are going to be murdering Democrats while they sleep within a decade, but let's be clear, it's all a masterbatory thought exercise.

    The fascists will regain control of all three branches of the US government. They will likely have control when ecological collapse begins, and if not, will probably immediately gain it back even if there still are legitimate elections. It's called ecofascism, and it's coming to every square inch of habitable land within the next decade or two.

    So, let's talk about how we have to sweet talk the fascists who want to murder us, so that we can imperceptibly slow the collapse of society. Great, I wonder why people aren't giving a fuck about voting.

    Might as well scream at young people that if we don't elect Manchin/Sinema in 2024, the Republicans deserve to win.

    Hilariously out-of-touch people-with-money screaming at the have-nots nonsense. That's why "we're" losing.

      1. n1cholas

        Listen up fascist shitbag, I don't care about any of your opinions. You believe you should be able to control a woman's body, and that's what makes you a shitbag fascist. Your opinion on everything is dogshit.

  23. KenSchulz

    Of course Democrats can always do a better job of getting their message out, and finding ways to attract and inspire new adherents. But you go where the ducks are, and there is every reason to think Democrats-turned-Republican are unlikely to be your best prospects. Maybe you target new voters, or soon-to-be-voting-age, or even nonvoters. Businesses spend money/effort figuring out how to acquire new customers and retain existing ones cost-effectively; political parties can definitely do this more systematically and quantitatively.

  24. spatrick

    “The party itself is no longer Democrat, it’s progressive socialism,”,/i>

    Get back to me after this past weekend.

    We're talking 370,000 voters at most just last year and just in the places where they keep such numbers (many states do not). What's the state by state breakdown and what areas?

    Sad to see Kevin bite on such clickbait for an typical anti-Left post. I don't disagree with your critiques of the Left but right now that moment has passed.

    1. Spadesofgrey

      These are irrelevant never trumpers. We know who they are. They live in big city areas. Moronic journalists like these......

  25. Spadesofgrey

    Lol, progressive socialists weren't gun hoe about vaccines moron. They were way more cautionary and that includes lockdowns. It was mainstream politicians who were gunhoe.

    This guy is a globalist libertarian who probably tell for the Trump scam....on the conservative side.

  26. Spadesofgrey

    The racial justice never did work and indeed democrats are ignoring it in 2022. Here is the thing about black gun violence atticus: people are starting to blame Republicans for it. Why do these thugs have AR-15's??????? Republicans.

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