Were you wondering what's on Donald Trump's mind these days?
There you have it. If elected, Trump promises to try and destroy NBC News for treason.
He won't do it, of course. He's mostly just throwing red meat to the base. Or maybe NBC has a big story coming out and Trump wants to get ahead of it. Who knows? But no matter the reason, no one running for president of the United States should ever say something like this. It's a temper tantrum worthy of a five year old. It continues to baffle me that any Republican politician would support a man who says things like this.
I'm guessing that the Defendant invokes the id of many people, who are frustrated, maybe scared, and want to see somebody respond with verbal violence... and maybe even the real thing.
I watched MSNBC for the pushback. So I've apparently got the same general characteristic: hit back at your "oppressors."
"It continues to baffle me that any Republican politician would support a man who says things like this."
Not really -- they say it because they still believe it helps THEM remain in office. What continues to baffle ME is that any so-called "swing" or "independent" votes would support a man who says things like this.
Oh, look! The price of gas still hasn't gone down to $2.50! I guess we need trump back in office to lower it.
It amazes me to come across SO MANY people who don't care about anything but gas prices. And it isn't just an excuse - many of them didn't vote or voted for Biden.
Trump represents the people who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Americans to preserve their right to treat people as livestock based solely on the color of their skin.
He vetoed the Defense Authorization Bill to preserve the names of traitors on our military facilities.
Trump is a white supremacist, and tens of millions of people support him. They are terrified of straight white “Christian” men losing any more of the privilege they have enjoyed for three centuries, and they won’t give up easily.
This ain’t complicated. George Wallace won the Michigan Democratic primary in 1972.
It's like he speaks a secret code language that can only be understood by stupid people.
That would be fine if there weren't so many stupid people.
I think I will borrow this if you don't mind...I know a lot of people on the right (right more or less), and this is really a fine insult...without being an open insult. Kind of...Heck No! I'm not speaking, (writing) about you, I'm talking about stupid people, not you, 9scilent Hahahshahahahahaha)
Thanks, Best Wishes, Traveller
Comcast should stop carrying FNC.
I dropped my Comcast tv subscription for that.
He just gets dumber and worse every day. I’m so sick of that blathering paste ball getting deferential treatment.
So disappointing. This nation just went and brought back a sample from an asteroid.
Indeed! My spouse is heavily involved in said NASA mission, and I--call me biased if you will--am incredibly proud. This is a country that accomplishes great things, and we shouldn't lose sight of that no matter what depressing nonsense Trump posts to social meida.
he probably won't succeed but he will *definitely* try.
one of the few consistent throughlines of Trumpism is that he wants to create Singapore's authoritarian speech regime in the United States. essentially, he has realized that the federal law enforcement agencies (not counting the ones in DHS) have no appetite for establishing a fascist dictatorship, and it is too logistically difficult to patch one together out of more-sympathetic local police forces.
but the courts? *those* might work with him to some degree. even if he can't get the FBI to make him emperor for life, he might be able to achieve a soft version of that if he can get some rulings dramatically expanding the practical scope of defamation law, allowing Republicans to bankrupt anyone they don't like by ramming bogus defamation suits through kangaroo courts. it still is unlikely to work very well but it's halfway possible compared to the other options he wants! crushing major media outlets like NBC, getting a huge judgment against them with the help of some Trump-appointed hack judge, would go a long way toward making this project a reality.
People would sometimes come up with these scenarios during the Bush admin and they were sometimes adjacent to evil shit those guys were up to, but were more often garbage conspiracies.
With Trump he'll try all of it. He's already attempted all kinds of heinous things. Of course he'll do this stuff.
I am so tired of having a psychopath stress test our country.
he has realized that the federal law enforcement agencies (not counting the ones in DHS) have no appetite for establishing a fascist dictatorship,
A federal law enforcement apparatus insufficiently purged of reasonable, good-faith actors had no such appetite, sure. But many of these agencies—and certainly the Department of Justice itself—are run mainly by political appointees. Term one was a heuristic for term two. Next time they'll be much better prepared, and much more ruthless. And yes, they'll have a Supreme Court in their pocket that is more dependably corrupt.
I don't know if the US will reach Mussolini or Franco-levels of authoritarianism under Trump II. But I fear Orbán or Erdoğan are definitely in the cards.
"one of the few consistent throughlines of Trumpism is that he wants to create Singapore's authoritarian speech regime in the United States. "
That is false. What Trump wants is something like North Korea, where there is one ruler and the rest are slaves. There is a reason why he exchanged love letters with Kim, but not with whoever is the leader of Singapore.
i mean, yes, as a pie-in-the-sky aspirational goal, he would love to be the DPRK or some other sultanist system (Trujillo's Dominican Republic, Marcos's Philippines, Saudi Arabia or the UAE, etc.). that really is not a feasible medium-term scenario in a highly bureaucratized system like the United States, and even someone as dumb as Trump is capable of figuring that out.
Singapore is a model that is actually within the realm of feasibility, and it has obvious appeal for Trump in the sense that he wants both all the money *and* all the public adoration, but if forced to choose only one of these he'll take your money for himself every time. the other piece of this is that i'm really referring to the Trumpized Republican Party rather than Trump himself. the petty-bourgeoisie who form Trump's hardcore base start getting tetchy at the idea the state might have enough power to keep them from ruling their own little fiefdoms - but they love the more limited idea of being able to sue some wokes out of all their money.
"Singapore is a model that is actually within the realm of feasibility, and it has obvious appeal for Trump in the sense ..."
I don't remember him ever giving a compliment to Singapore's leaders, so he obviously doesn't find their model attractive. He will go as far as he can towards stalinism, and assuming he doesn't succeed to go al lthe way, it will look like a milder authoritarian regime. But the comparison to Singapore doesn't add anything.
to clarify this a bit, the problem with sultanist systems is that they are generally very bad for private businesspeople. *Trump himself* doesn't care about that of course, as long as he gets his - but the people who own most of America's wealth - some of whom have some degree of control over the Republican Party - very much do care about the possibility that the government might start confiscating their businesses on a dictator's whim, and investors are especially reluctant to put their money into such a system, where there's substantial risk that the government will grab their invested capital. the Singapore model is one they can all get on the same page about, though - it preserves private enterprise's ability to make money while still allowing the powerful the ability to go after anyone they find inconvenient.
He's the true voice of the baboon colony, he's all they have --he's all they will ever have.
"It continues to baffle me that any Republican politician would support a man who says things like this."
It doesn't baffle me so much. Because of an ignorant and impressionable electorate, Trump is their ticket to power and wealth.
What baffles me more is the craven acceptance of this state of affairs by American news media. Here we have a guy who has threatened to kill an American military general, and not a peep out of the Washington Post that I can see. Instead they write a headline article proclaiming Gen Milley to be a "controversial" figure.
I have to conclude that the news media really want Republican control of the nation.
Trump has always had a chip on his shoulder about the way cable TV stations don't have to pay for their content. He's made snarky comments more than once that they should pay him to do interviews or to participate in "debates", because he attracts such great ratings. I bet he envies the Brits, where people still have to pay the government to watch TV. Except he'd pocket the licence fees himself, not use them to fund public broadcasting.
The US doesn’t have television license fees. And Trump doesn’t seem to understand that most people don’t get their television through the publicly owned broadcast airwaves and cable channels never do and never have.
It sounded better in the original German: Lügenpresse!
Meanwhile, Kirsten Welker and the producers at MTP are trying to figure out how to re-book him to talk more about his plans to destroy them. Talk about clicks!
It continues to baffle me that any Republican politician would support a man who says things like this.
You've already answered your own question.
It's a temper tantrum worthy of a five year old.
And that is the level on which VERY many Republican voters -- especially primary voters -- operate, and he connects with them viscerally, because he operates at that level too (and he knows they do, and he craves their approval).
And other Republican politicians know it, and they're petrified they'll be primaried. So they toe the line.
Once again -- and again and again -- the problem is Republican VOTERS -- primary voters AND general election voters, the latter because they support and enable the choices of the former. It's the whole damn rot-infested party. And it won't go away when Trump leaves the scene.
Well....he's their 5 year old who can do no wrong!
That's just what Fred said. Decades later, when he realized his "brilliant businessman son" was an incompetent wastrel, it was too late.
It's their 'news' media. It's a race to the bottom as there is big $ in giving people that little jolt of adrenaline associated with feeling angry about.....something. Spice in some feelings of power, knowledge, and righteousness among people who are often not very bright and you have a recipe for endless profits and a dysfunctional democracy where some 40% of the populations believes utter bullshit. So yes, the Republican party is a toxic waste dump but get rid of them and the whole bullshit media ecosystem would remain in place and glom onto some other liar. Outside of loosening liable laws, I really am unsure how to get out of this.
GOP voters get to live all their dark propensities vicariously through Trump, and GOP politicians are well aware of this. It's easy to see how popular Trump is.
Trump also delivered a big tax cut to the mega rich. The party's bigwigs may find Trump personally distasteful, but they still love what he delivered them. They may be slightly concerned about his authoritarian tendencies, but most are pretty ambivalent about democracy. They figure they'll end up in the oligarch class, and actual democracy always carries a risk of people voting in Scandinavian-style welfare states.
There are a few Republicans who are pro-democracy enough that they end up very publicly and consistently anti-Trump. But they are rare and fail to attract voters.
You can't be a political party without voters. And, at the moment, there is no GOP politician who can lead a rhetoric of heroic support for democratic ideals. All GOP politicians today are either MAGA or seen as mealy-mouthed party players. Maybe a young John McCain could have used his military service/maverick persona to be a compelling counterpoint. But McCain is dead and there is no equivalent in the party now.
"Trump also delivered a big tax cut to the mega rich"
Yeah, but the smart money that got said tax cut is also smart enough to know that Trump's role in said delivery was just being the guy in the room. *Any* republican president would have done the same (and any other republican president would have accomplished more with the republican congress Trump had), so Trump ain't special on that count.
Demented Donny should pay NBC for giving him the same undeserved free platform for his horrendous lies & threats that CNN provided previously.
No amount of immediate fact-checking (should just be called lie-countering at this point) is ever adequate, & he & his cohort have plenty of other media arenas in which to perform for their preferred audiences.
Representative Gosar thinks General Milley should be hanged. Trump says he deserves DEATH.
All just talk. Of course they would never do that. Temper tantrums.
And all his supporters love it.
As do all the "journalists" of the US infotainment media. Clicks! $$! What's not to love?
It's so strange to me that the news media seems not to understand what a second Trump term would mean for them. Trump is treated like any other pol. running for city council.
What does "enemy of the people" mean to the media class? If he will call for the execution of the Joint Chief of Staff, what do our fifth column talking heads think about their future with Herr Trump?
Fascist brown shirts are already here.
Pink glasses theory: They intentionally try to make him comfortable making such statements, so it can be used against him during the actual campaign.
More seriously, they may think that attacking him will not be effective.
I cannot wait for the day when this mephitic piece of shit Is gagged forever and we will never have to hear his name mentioned, ever again!
The media is so used to Trump talking like this that they think it is just one of his usual temper tantrums and barely report it. But the unfortunate truth is that if he is reelected he will put sycophants in charge who will do the things he says he says he wants. The danger is very real but the MSM has its collective heads in the sand.
Fk that guy.
Funny comment about MSNBC being a traitor, comings from the fat orange fingers of an actual traitor. So Kevin can't believe that Republicans can support such a person? They are already overwhelmingly supporting a person facing over 90 criminal indictments and has been proven in civil court to be sexual predator.
Sociopathic narcissist Trump wants praise and adulation all day long and zero criticism. I mean, in Trump's mind, he deserves this.
Thus Trump is innately a wannabe authoritarian. Consider the playbook of all wannabe authoritarians. First, you relentlessly tell your followers how corrupt all the major institutions are in your country, including the government and media. Next you convince them the things government officials and the media say are all lies and should be ignored. You convince them that only you can be trusted to tell the truth. Once you are in power, you move to gut all major government institutions and replace the fired workers with your cronies. Next you have your justice division begin arresting your political opponents, and you put them in jail. Next you move against the media, and begin shutting down any that you declare are treasonous or spreading lies. You do this until all remaining media organizations only praise you. And finally, you declare that any term limits don't apply to you. There you have it -- success! You have your own country to rule!
Putin followed the playbook very well -- and Trump so admires Putin. Trump has laid out his plans to follow the same playbook. However, Trump is an idiot, and the checks and balances in the US system remain robust. He won't succeed at any of his dreams, but it's still scary that such a monster may well be the next president. And he will of course do some real damage before leaving office. Thank goodness we have a two term presidential limit. But putting up with this guy for four more years – oh my, what has become of us?
We wouldn't have to put up with him for four more years if Biden would "step out of the ring".
Hey, I remember well that LBJ did so on March 30, 1968.
From "The Hill": Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.) said he has not yet ruled out a primary challenge to President Biden for 2024. “I am thinking about it. I haven’t ruled it out,”
Yeah, man, the eight years of President Humphrey were some of the best and most progressive since FDR!
Weird. Now both the left and the right want to auction off the airwaves to television stations.
This tantrum is an attack on the National Association of Broadcasters. That seems like treading on dangerous ground. But... My quick scan of the internet suggests Trump is just doubling down. I'm surprised the Magats can get away with pissing off the Chamber of Commerce so hard.
But then, who listens to "broadcasts" anymore ? Broadcast teevie is limited to a few old farts; everybody else gets cable or ditched their sets entirely. It's all social media now, although a few discerning souls still look at news websites and "papers."
"Were you wondering what's on Donald Trump's mind these days?"
Oh god, no!