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Twitter fined $350,000 because it was three days late

The latest on Twitter:

This is fairly misleading. Twitter had no problem producing the information but objected to a nondisclosure order that prevented them from informing Trump about the warrant. They duked it out in court for a while, and eventually produced everything the special counsel wanted—but were three days late. That's all the $350,000 fine is about. It seems kind of excessive, no?

UPDATE: I originally said that Twitter won its battle over the nondisclosure, but it turns out this was only much later. I'm not clear about precisely what happened, so I've removed everything about it.

20 thoughts on “Twitter fined $350,000 because it was three days late

  1. somebody123

    fining a billionaire a few hundy (thousands) actually seems too small. we need fines that are relative to your net worth so they have bite.

    1. Joel

      Exactly. A fine that starts at $50 million and doubles each day would have gotten Elon's attention. $350K isn't even couch change for him.

    2. Joseph Harbin

      Numbers get adjusted on this blog all the time to provide context. Why not now?

      Musk: $231,000,000,000 net worth
      Fine: $350,000

      Fine is 0.00015% of Musk's worth.

      For a person with a net worth of $1 million, the equivalent fine would be $1.50.

      Of all the damned things to take the trouble to write a blog post about, I'll never understand why any normal person should worry that a fine to a company owned by one of the richest people in the world for failing to comply with the terms of a warrant related to investigation of an attempt to overthrow the government of the US might be excessive. A buck-fifty. I'm sure Elon appreciates your concern.

  2. bizarrojimmyolsen

    Fines like this are designed to try and force future compliance so it for a company of twitter's size it had to be big. If this were Joe Schmoe off the street of Joes Dry Cleaner it would have been less.

  3. zaphod

    NO!!! Show me one thing that Twitter (X) or Elon Musk himself has done to justify leniency.

    I give Kevin a pass on this one because I think he is just trying to be controversial. At least I hope so.

  4. Jimm

    Seems they would have had plenty of time with the delays related to non-disclosure, which never had anything to do with whether the material would be delivered or not, so no I don't feel bad for them.

  5. Doctor Jay

    I think Kevin is being sarcastic. It does not seem excessive to me. It seems like barely enough to get corporate attention. For all but a very small number of persons, it would be a lot, but not for any company, even a small-potatoes (financially) one like Twitter.

  6. Solar

    "UPDATE: I originally said that Twitter won its battle over the nondisclosure, but it turns out this was only much later. I'm not clear about precisely what happened, so I've removed everything about it."

    Was about to comment about this. Twitter lost the legal battle. The court sided with the DOJ, however sometime into the process the DOJ amended the disclosure prohibition to allow some details to be disclosed not because Twitter had won the argument, but because by then it was already public knowledge that the DOJ was looking into these matters so it became moot not to let Trump be notified by Twitter.

  7. cmayo

    I don't find it misleading at all. They resisted the order (in its original form). How is that misleading?

    I guess maybe because their fine wasn't really tied to their resisting the order - and in fact their resistance to it should have made their response more timely because it essentially gave them extra time to respond? But it's such a whatever.

  8. bw

    Stop losing the forest for the trees. We're not talking about some ho-hum intellectual property case; this case is literally one on which the future of US democracy rests.

    Every minute that Elon gets to delay things helps Donald Trump get closer to running out the clock on Jack Smith. Given those stakes, a fine in the hundreds of millions to billions for failing to deliver things promptly would be more appropriate.

  9. Jimm

    By my read, Twitter was ordered to comply with the warrant by the last week of January, which they missed, and filed a motion to challenge the nondisclosure order on Feb 2 (claiming would not otherwise comply with warrant until matter decided), and prosecution sought contempt order on same day (Feb 2), and Twitter didn't comply until Feb 9, with apparently no one caring about their assertion would not comply with warrant until nondisclosure matter decided.

    So the nondisclosure issue was only raised four days after Twitter has already missed the warrant deadline, according to Politico story I read at least.

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