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Voting Is All About Education These Days

Here's a chart from the Economist. It's a little hard to follow, so I've highlighted the US in a heavy line:

In 1970, the rich (top 10%) voted strongly for Republicans and the rest (bottom 90%) voted strongly for Democrats. Education didn't matter.

In 2010, the most educated voted for Democrats and the rest voted for Republicans. Income didn't matter.

The point of the chart is that the same thing has been happening in other countries as well. As usual, it's just more prominent in the US.

46 thoughts on “Voting Is All About Education These Days

  1. MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    So, proof that both Trumpers & Berners are ignorant AF.

    Thought that should have gone without saying, as both tips of the horseshoe are fauxpulists fluffing populists.

      1. MontyTheClipArtMongoose

        As Cillian Murphy advised in A Quiet Place: Part 2, "The people remaining aren't the kind of people worth saving".

        Still hard to believe that John Krasinski, the lead in the ensemble for "13 Hours: the Secret Soldiers of Benghazi", is the man responsible for scripting that perfect distillation of MAGA. Ol' Jim still has some atoning to do, though.

        1. Martin Stett

          It's all done in the editing room. Krasinski was responsible for his performance, and not what was done with it or around it.
          On the set of "The New World", a confused Colin Farrell told a confused Christopher Plummer that they'd both end up as bloody ospreys.

        2. Special Newb

          "....college degrees only seemed to make a difference in voters’ likelihood of supporting Sanders if they were between the ages of 45 and 65 — those without degrees in that age range were significantly more likely to be considering voting for Sanders than those with degrees. But for voters under 45 and over 65, education didn’t matter much — people under 30 were open to backing Sanders whether they graduated from college or not; people over 65, degree or no, largely were not considering backing him. And in ABC News/The Washington Post polls conducted in January and February, the effect of education on Sanders support disappeared entirely once we controlled for ideology, age, income and race."

          https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-defines-the-sanders-coalition/

          1. lawnorder

            "Controlled for ideology" seems to me to be inappropriate when it comes to political choices. Naturally, if you have a "leftist" ideology, you're more likely to support Sanders, whereas if you're a "moderate", you're less likely to support Sanders.

            Decision factors should not be confused for random distorting factors.

    1. lawnorder

      I happen to be over 65, the holder of an advanced degree, and an unenthusiastic Sanders supporter; he's too conservative to get my enthusiastic support.

    2. Mitchell Young

      Never forgot.

      "However what was far more surprising according to the Morning Consult survey, is that on average, Republicans – and Republican men in particular – were more likely to correctly locate North Korea than Democratic men. And Republicans were more likely to be in favor of almost all the diplomatic solutions posed by the researchers. (Women tended to find North Korea at similar rates, regardless of party.)"

      Years of education doesn't reflect actual knowledge.

      https://www.mintpressnews.com/his-what-happened-when-americans-were-asked-to-find-north-korea-on-a-map/227820/

    3. Loxley

      You sure do love your False Equivalencies, don't you?

      Compare a Fascist Oligarchy like Russia with Sweden, and then tell us that both ends of the spectrum are equally stupid....

  2. Joel

    "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
    ~Winston Churchill

    1. J. Frank Parnell

      Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. - HK. L. Mencken

    1. Midgard

      What do you think "Christian" schooling and " Church" is for. Education is in the eye of the beholder. The white roses hated the German Public School system and how it would turn children against parents if they didn't tow the line.

  3. mungo800

    Isn’t this result simply a consequence of, presently, wealth and education being much more positively correlated than was the case in 1970. This simply explains what we already knew poorly educated people have fewer high paying job opportunities in today’s economy and, as well, unions are less politically powerful.

    1. MontyTheClipArtMongoose

      So, you're saying, in 1970, unions let the Archies Bunker keep their jobs & their racism, but after the oil embargo, they lost their jobs, while the Democrat Party lost its racism.

      At least the GQP lets them keep their racism.

      1. Midgard

        Bunker was a dialectical creation. My father had many views like Bunker, but was a die hard ecofascist, despised peckerwood morons in Wyoming, interior Oregon who lived off environmentally unfriendly practices. A big part of the reason white nationalists never get anywhere is because of massive differences on what being "white" means. If Republicans didn't gobble up white protestant nondoms like they do, the party would struggle as my point above is going to make, the commodity whites are tiny. In Oregon, they are so small, they can't even make up the total vote in Caucasian driven suburbs. My father would argue for relocation and male extermination who don't want to play ball. Of course all peaceful ladies could live, gotta breed some.

      2. Mitchell Young

        Whites have the right to expound and work for their own ethnic interests. More and more of us are realizing this, and you won't be able to stop it.

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  5. Midgard

    Not really your best effort. Education by degree doesn't show this. If your point was true, Republicans never win a election between 1900-78.

    Service sector college and noncollege workers generally voted Republican while industrial workers college and noncollege voted Democrat. Even before the Great Depression, these patterns were established. The crisis of the depression blew up organized labor to historical highs. Obviously popular guys like General Eisenhower or FDR could cross lines. But the bases were the same.

    1. Crissa

      Weirdly, every election contains a different set of people and you cannot extrapolate a poll today to a time period over forty years ago, let alone 120.

  6. bad Jim

    Before the GI Bill and the rise of public higher education, a college degree was a marker of wealth. These days, not so much.

    Moreover, the educated population skews younger, because an increasing number of people are getting degrees.

  7. KenSchulz

    In 1970, the salient differences between parties were their ideology and policy positions. The Democrats still have policy and program priorities; the Republicans have a culture war and a cult of personality. Apparently education makes one more tolerant of diversity and less susceptible to idolizing con men.

    1. Midgard

      lolz, northeast liberals love them some culture war and demand the party "fight" it with the base being southeast nomdoms. You are the problem. Eff both of you.

  8. Justin

    Voting... how quaint. There will be no more votes if republicans have anything to do with it.

    "Former national security adviser Michael Flynn said over the weekend that a Myanmar-like coup — in which the military overthrew a democratically elected government — “should happen” in the U.S.

    Appearing in Dallas at a QAnon conference, Flynn was asked during a Q&A session that was shared in a Twitter video: “I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can’t happen here?”

    After cheers from the crowd died down, Flynn responded: “No reason. I mean, it should happen here.”

    The US military is the enemy.

    1. MontyTheClipArtMongoose

      Pull his pension.

      Apparently, with the money from Russia since retirement, Mikey doesn't need the pension anyway.

    2. mudwall jackson

      i'll see your michael flynn with paul eaton and raise you a wesley clark and an alexander vindman. there's a reason why myanmar hasn't happened here despite having a president who dearly wanted one last november.

      i have no idea what you do for a living, jumpy, but if you look, i'm sure you'd find a few michael flynns in your line of work. doesn't mean you're a bunch of fascists. as a whole, the military takes seriously its oath to defend the constitution.

  9. skeptonomist

    Yes, the change is in the education parameter - support by upper 10% in income is almost the same. It would be important to know exactly how education is defined and to what extent the education-income correlation has changed. (no link given to the piece)

  10. ProbStat

    Makes sense: over the interval between the two dates, the wealthy recruited the ignorant to their political alignment.

  11. AsianExpat

    Is this a new trend, not linking to your source? You neglect it also in your post about 1% daily vaccination rates too. The Economist graphic is easy enough to find, but is frustrating because they also refer to a “recent” paper by Thomas Piketty as their source, but can we consider his Brahmin vs Merchant paper from 2019 recent or is there another? Not one I can find.

  12. dmhindle

    This predicts that the Republican legislative assault on education will continue to increase. So far the push to rein in colleges has mostly been in state legislatures, but federal action to e.g. forgive student, provide a more affordable access to education is certain to be vigorously opposed.. on fiscal grounds.

    1. Mitchell Young

      The 'top ten' percent of those having the most formal schooling are usually in jobs that are not subject to competition from foreign businesses or immigrants. E.g. lawyers, who are protected by bar associations from even competition within the US. And a large number of this group is also employed by the state (at various governmental levels). They are just voting for their interests as parasites.

      https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/05/29/educated-voters-leftward-shift-is-surprisingly-old-and-international

  13. Loxley

    As thought we don't know why the GOP has been attacking public education, journalism, transparency, and critical thinking itself, for generations now....

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