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You can only push City of Hope just so far

Here at City of Hope, the hospital menu is pretty extensive and caters both to healthy eaters and to us normal people. They've got burgers and tuna melts. For breakfast you might want to try the French toast. You can have your sandwiches on white bread. Mayonnaise is liberally applied all over the place. They've got milkshakes and smoothies and fruit juice and coffee. Desserts include cookies, cake, ice cream, and pudding.

But one thing is a step too far:

All that other stuff is OK, but if you'd like a nice, cold Coca-Cola with lunch? Sorry. Apparently that's one unhealthy habit they can't bring themselves to endorse.

I wonder why? It's not the caffeine, since they have coffee on the menu. It's not the carbonation, since they have ginger-ale. It's not fake sugar since they have diet soda that's not colored brown. So what do you suppose is their objection to colas?

26 thoughts on “You can only push City of Hope just so far

    1. Altoid

      Just what I was going to point to. They list plenty of dark-staining juices so it isn't about coloring your insides, right? And if the bottler wants too much for it you'd expect to see Pepsi.

      So effects on teeth move to the head of the line, imho, and I have a story about why. In junior high days a friend of mine told me how his dentist dad showed them that you can put a tooth in a glass with a little bit of Coke and it'll dissolve in short order. If you can't brush your teeth often enough to get the residue off pretty quickly, which I could see happening in a hospital setting, feeding patients Coke might not seem like such a hot idea.

      Guess you'll have to have somebody smuggle it in--

    2. Gary Ratner

      Phosphates stress kidneys. Nephrologists discourage all "dark" sodas because they are usually darkened with phosphate-rich artificial caramel coloring.

  1. Dana Decker

    Colas aside, I'm surprised tomato juice is not listed. For some people (like me) it's almost a comfort food, especially if it's very cold and thick.

  2. JimFive

    Based on the menu, it's cost. They don't have Sprite, they have "lemon lime soda", so they aren't providing name brand soda. Generic cola is pretty awful so they just don't provide it.

    1. fabric5000

      Price? You think the hospital is concerned about the price of something that they can charge back at a huge mark-up?

      1. Jasper_in_Boston

        I don't see prices listed. If the hospital just bills you for "lunch" then it would indeed make sense for them to minimize the cost of supplies.

  3. cld

    A coke with lunch is just --there's just no word for that.

    My cousin has a coke with lunch, along with soft serve ice cream he dunks his fries into.

  4. D_Ohrk_E1

    Just casually dropping Sen. Marshall's (R-KS) report on the origins of COVID.

    It's 300 pages with nearly 1600 end notes so you can follow the trail, more or less, of all the evidence gathered. Very detailed, though a bunch of questionable technical assumptions. The report also leans on detailing the reasons why risk of biological research in BSL facilities needs to be more carefully regulated and monitored. But overall, they tried to present a report to suggest that both paths to spillover remain fully plausible.

    For me, the bottom line is that China did do additional testing of thousands of farmed domesticated animals via samples previously collected during late 2019, and appears to have come up empty on SARS-CoV-2 infections, but hasn't made its data public. Why hide it?

    1. golack

      When Trump blamed China, China blamed the US. The official party line is that it was planted in China by outside agitators. That affects how data gets interpreted and what gets released to everyone else. No evidence that data is being "adjusted"

      1. D_Ohrk_E1

        I was poring through FOIA release from UTMB from the early months of the pandemic. Even while researchers/scientists were trying to get their hands on the viral samples from China, they were extremely accommodating and careful to avoid offending Chinese officials.

        It seems likely that Trump's (and his lackeys') public insults blew everything up, even if he had no ties to what these researchers were doing.

        Conspiracists see cooperation between adversarial countries as signs of a global conspiracy, which in turn triggers countries to retrench cooperation.

        IDK where these scientists currently stand on the subject on the origins of the virus, but the overwhelming opinion in 2020 was that all things needed to be investigated and the Bat Lady was an honorable research colleague who should be trusted. However, given how the subject has become extremely political, I'm sure most of them just prefer to keep their mouths shut and heads down.

  5. Heysus

    There is also a history and study showing that soda's cause cancer, over time. I have an acquaintance of Kevin's age with bowel cancer, who drank Dr. Pepper all of his life as if it was water. His doctors claim the cancer may be due to all of those carbonated drinks.

  6. bmore

    I'm going with limiting caffeine. Some heart tests (and maybe other tests) say no caffeine for a certain amount of time before the test, and it is easier to limit caffeine when it is in just tea and coffee.

  7. pjcamp1905

    What is this "unsweet tea" of which you speak? Has some infernal technology been invented for taking it out?

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