Here's an interesting chart showing post-Brexit immigration into the UK:
Apparently the Brexiteers promised a new immigration system that favored skilled workers, and they delivered. After it went into effect immigration from the EU (i.e., plumbers from Poland) plummeted while immigration from the rest of the world (doctors from Delhi) tripled. Overall immigration has increased since Brexit by about 50%.
Some of this rise is temporary, such as refugees from Ukraine. But any way you look at it, the net impact of Brexit has been more immigration. This is quite a shock to Brexit voters who expected just the opposite, but apparently Britain has such an intense shortage of doctors, nurses, and so forth that no one minds too much.
True irony.
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I don't think it is, not really. A lot of the opposition to immigration seemed to come from rural areas, and was directed at things like plumbers and carpenters from Poland, service industry workers from Portugal and Croatia, etc. That sort of immigration is largely ended, but as Kevin and the NYT suggest, it has been replaced by medical professionals from India and the Philippines, university students from Nigeria, and other skilled positions, mainly in urban areas. Now the average Brexiteer may not be happy about that Filipino nurse, but when he has to use the NIH, he's happy there are enough nurses, because the NIH has trouble keeping qualified doctors and nurses. Likewise, plenty of schools are happy to accept foreign students.
So, Britain benefits from a brain drain from other countries, and working class Brexiteers face less competition in trades and services. Objectively, that's probably a positive result, but I'm sure many Brexiteers are still pissed about all the foreigners running around.
"This is quite a shock to Brexit voters who expected just the opposite"
Proof of this?
The claims that Brexit was about racism and immigration were claims by the *opponents* of Brexit.
No-one on the left seems to actually care what the pro-Brexit crowd thought. (Not in 2016 when Brexit was happening, not in 2019 when Brexit was supposed to have been such a failure that the Conservative would definitely lose.) It's almost like, maybe listening to a caricature of the opposition isn't a good way to understand what they think...
Simple-minded polls will not get at any sort of useful truth. For example if voters' primary concern is not with immigration per se, but with the skill levels of immigrants, they could simultaneously tell you "I'm against immigration" (meaning the kack-handed system of 2015) and be thrilled at a system that IS now based on skills:
See eg Fig 5 of:
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-of-concern/
So Brexit was about funding the NHS for an additional 350 million sterling pounds a week? I quote a University of Washington paper published in 2018: “more than half of Leave voters cited immigration as important in making their voting decision, compared to 18% who cited the economy (Ipsos MORI 2016)”. So yes immigration was a major drive for Brexit, I mean this is pretty much incontrovertible so I’m not sure why you think the very recent study you cite disproves the point. It doesn’t.
You present no evidence that the non-EU immigration post-Brexit are more qualified and/or needed than the pre-Brexit EU immigration> I was living in the UK from 2010 to 2012 and 2015 to 2020 and can tell you that labour shortages in critical areas increased post-Brexit. Healthcare personnel, in particular, have not been immgrating to the UK because a) has been under funded and b) working conditions have been terrible (hence the ongoing rotatng doctor strikes). In other technical areas such as engineers, scientists and tech workers there are shortages because other countries offer better pay, easier immigration processes and/or lower living costs.
So, not a very good place to be living these days?
It sounds like stakeholder capitalism has pushed down wages and benefits in order for elites to make more money there as well. Lovely. And just like the US, they've been successful at diverting the anger towards immigrants instead of corporate culture and the demands of return on investment?
In so many ways, the whole system has turned into a toxic mess that rivals any dictator led, warlord controlled, feudal system. You can't challenge the status quo and there's no organized opposition that can't be destroyed by the obscene amounts of money that can be brought to bear on fighting for rule and dominance.
The stakeholders have won and they control the game board.
You could, you know, read the NYT story he links to.
Brexit turned into Brokit?
I don't know how you justify saying that they don't mind this. If you watch the Prime Minister's statements, he's been promising to reduce even legal immigration. They want fewer immigrants, period, regardless of the kind.
That is true and, like the US (and many other western countries) the right wing blames immigration for all thier ills. Sunak is far behind in the polls and has to hold an election in 2024 so, he is trying to store up support on the anti-immigration right of his party.
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Does he have video proof of this, or is it merely something they told him?
It looks as though not an awful lot of EU people want to live in the UK. I can understand why.
Alot of people who were in the UK on EU passports (Americans, refugees, etc) found it easier to emigrate directly to the UK after Brexit.
That on top of the UK's sudden and drastic need for workers as they weren't getting migrant workers from the EU, and the upswing in refugees in general would explain the rest.
It's one half moving a portion from one category to another, the other half general raising of immigration in general.
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