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Lies, damn lies, and conservative speech

From the New York Times:

Mr. Trump has accused federal officials and social companies of trying to suppress conservative speech, while they have said they were only trying to identify falsehoods about elections, vaccines and the like.

Potayto, potahto.

33 thoughts on “Lies, damn lies, and conservative speech

    1. Jim B 55

      Ah, that is another issue. Who knows the truth of that? And the importance is approximately 0. Another thing that conservatives do, waste time with trivia.

        1. cistg

          Nobody denies that the laptop was owned by Hunter Biden. However, being able to trust the information on it after it was in the unsupervised hands of Giuliani and other shady ratf*ckers is something else completely.

          1. gibba-mang

            Correct. Rudy and the MAGAts brain trust repeatedly stated that the laptop contained evidence of corruption and payments from Burisma and other Ukraine players to the Bidens. Instead all we got were Hunter doing blow with hookers.

            The one bright spot in this nonsense was the conservative view
            that anyone who did illegal drugs and lied on their gun permit should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law /s

          2. Crissa

            Well, there was a bit of time when the copies of the harddrive were bouncing around all summer and it was difficult for them to authenticate because it was stolen data divorced from the physical laptop.

            But none of the stories which mentioned that part were suppressed, either.

        2. jv

          Also real: Donald Trump's fingers jammed up E. Jean Carroll's vagina while she struggled to get away. But y'all are ok with that reality, sooo...

          You married?

          1. MF

            Yes. In a dressing room in a department store where dozens of people might come running to any disturbance and done by one of the most egotistical image concious people in the history of the United States.

            It works in a movie or an erotic novel. In real life? Absolutely unbelievable. A New York jury ruled against Trump for being Trump. I doubt even they believed Carroll/s story.

            1. aldoushickman

              Yes! Donald Trump, famous for carefully thinking through the consequences of all his actions and always electing for the prudent, non-creepy choice. It's inconceivable that the many people who have come forward with stories of his abuse and convinced juries of same are being truthful.

    2. Crissa

      Noted, discussion of it was never censored, only posting stolen images ever was.

      Funny that stolen naked photos of someone might be stopped...

      1. MF

        Um... I think it is well documented both that the images were not stolen and that links to the NY Post's article discussing the contents of the laptop were blocked by Twitter.

    3. chaboard

      Reminder: It is indisputably true now - four years, multiple Congressional investigations and multiple criminal investigations later - that there was NOTHING on the 'laptop' that was remotely relevant to the 2020 Presidential campaign. In any way, shape or form.

      We now KNOW what most people THOUGHT then - that Rudy was throwing ketchup at the wall in the hopes of stealing the election before anyone realized there was no 'there' there (a lsa Jim Comey 2016)

      Not falling for that was probably the *best* journalistic impulse we've seen from the mainstream media in a deacde.....

  1. Jim B 55

    Of course, both statements can be true, if conservatives only lie. Which is pretty much the case. Which I suppose is Kevin's point. A bit cryptic for him. Getting cynical is his old age.

  2. cistg

    Exactly. These platforms are moderating lies and hate speech. It's not their problem that the overwhelming majority of the lies and hate speech comes from "conservatives" (really MAGAs). Stop spreading lies and hate and maybe you wouldn't have this problem.

    1. Josef

      We are living in a post truth/fact society. Lies are just as legitimate as truth or facts. To quote Kate McKinnon portraying Laura Ingraham, ""Feel facts" aren't technically facts, "but they just feel true," This is conservatives in a nutshell.

  3. Salamander

    I'm so old, I can remember when people wanted to know what was actually happening in the world and with their government, and made fun of outlets like "Pravda" that spread the party line.

    What do we need to do to go back to those Golden Days? Claim to be the "real conservatives" (since that seems to be the magic word)? Work the refs like the wingnuts have been doing for decades?

  4. jv

    It might be time to start saying that I'm actually conservative because I believe in:
    - family
    - honesty
    - truth
    - fairness
    - respect
    - freedom

    Literally the exact opposite of every reactionary Trumptroll in the Republican Party.

  5. Vog46

    I'm waiting for the day when a major presidential candidate disavows all political parties and runs on a platform that needs to be read
    Just about everyone's head will explode
    You know, a conservative who believes in helping the disadvantaged and practices tolerance of others?
    Yeh, I know, don't hold your breath .....................

  6. Josef

    I knew his administration would be bad, but how really bad could it be? Stephen Miller as deputy chief of staff for policy and Elise Stefanik as ambassador to the U.N. bad! That's just two I happened to read in Google suggested news feed.

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