According to a recent tally by New America, 267 people have been killed by terrorist acts on US soil since 9/11. Virtually all of these attacks were home-grown, not the result of planning or training by foreign terrorist groups:
These numbers include only attacks coded as terrorist, not mass shootings and the like. Nearly half were carried out by far-right wing killers (consisting of anti-government, militia, white supremacist, and anti-abortion violence). Christopher Wray, head of the FBI, said this in testimony before Congress last year:
The top domestic terrorism threat we face continues to be from domestic violent extremists we categorize as racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, including those who advocate for the superiority of the white race....We have also recently seen an increase in fatal attacks perpetrated by anti-government or anti-authority violent extremists, specifically militia violent extremists and anarchist violent extremists....These anti-government or anti-authority violent extremists have specifically targeted law enforcement and the military as well as institutions or members of the U.S. government.
The number of FBI investigations of suspected domestic violent extremists has more than doubled since the spring of 2020.
The top terrorist threat today comes not from Islamic jihadists, but from far-right white supremacists and anti-government fanatics. And it's growing fast.
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The Republican solution to this problem is to defund the FBI.
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But . . . it doesn't fit the narrative! You know, the narrative of the "post-9/11 world"! And we have a presidential candidate who obliquely shows favor to the terrorists by saying things like, "I know nothing about them, but I've heard that they are against pedophiles." And the reporters are baffled as to how to respond because to POLLS tell us that this person is the "front-runner" for a major party nomination and thus must be considered normal. What to do?
Those are all social conservative ideologies.
Well, there was one attack (out of 267) that was from Far Left Wing. So only 99.6% of terrorist attacks are by social conservatives.
I would say the far left is also a kind of social conservative, but socially conservative to a formative environment or experience that was either leftist or very antagonistic to a politically conservative person or view.
The stats Kevin has presented are deaths, not attacks.
Only 99.6% of terrorist deaths are by social conservatives.
That at least fits the data presented.
And in about another 180 years the whole set, right-wing, left-wing and the nuts various in between will have caught-up with the deaths from 9/11.
Or, to look at it another way, in the last twenty-odd years they’ve managed to kill as many people as will die attributable to COVID in the next thirty-six hours or so given the two-hundred deaths per day figure Kevin presents in https://jabberwocking.com/covid-deaths-are-at-their-lowest-rate-ever/
"That at least fits the data presented" And at most fits the data. Or more simply, it fits the data. The rest of your point is kinda sophomoric. Hey you forgot to mention more people die in car crashes.
True, but if Kevin could pin them on right-wing drivers I’m sure he would bring it up.
In any other context, fewer than three hundred deaths in over twenty years would have Kevin declaring a nothingburger.
I think the context is that terrorism, esp. Islamic terrorism, is a recurring bogeyman for the GOP so it is appropriate for Kevin, a left of center blogger, to show that the current evidence does not support their bogeyman notion. As the right wing rarely brings up highway fatalities or tries to use them to bludgeon Democrats I think your conviction ("I'm sure") that Kevin would be interested in the political beliefs of deadly drivers might be a bit over the top.
So, you're okay with the deaths caused by right wing fanatics since they don't add to all that many?
And in another 40 years, they'll catch up with Timothy McVeigh, a right-wing terrorist. Unlike the 9-11 perpetrators, McVeigh was someone from our own country committing terrorism against his fellow citizens -- sort of like what the FBI is talking about.
Or, you know, you could go to any of dozens of right wing chat rooms and read them fantasizing about killing their fellow citizens... and some number of them will act out those fantasies.
The article spent a lot of time detailing the jihadist attacks but did detail the attacks that came from the other groups. Was there more to the article than the four pages I read?
Also, is Antifa not considered a terrorist group?
Antifa isn't any kind of group, period. Antifa is anti-fascist. You know, like America was during WWII. You can be anti-fascist without belonging to a "group." Being American is antifa. So no, antifa isn't a terrorist group.
Antifa is not an anti-fascist group. They call themselves that, but they lie to the world and themselves. They are a fascist group made up of primarily white leftists. Did you not see the riots of 2020? Did you not see an entire block of Seattle taken over by these thugs? Are you just blind, or has your grip on reality slipped? Was the violence and destruction of property over the summer of 2020 justifiable?
Perhaps you might wish to check your own "reality" because I cannot find an Antifa group to join. You should get out more.
You have to work a bit, but they exist. There are more Antifa groups than there are white supremacist groups. You should try stepping out of your narrative more.
Most of the worst violence was the murders of unarmed, nonviolent individuals by police. I don’t believe that the destruction of property was justifiable, but buildings can be rebuilt; the dead can’t be brought back to life.
Two of the 27 killed were unarmed and shot by police. One was killed as the policeman intended to shoot another protester.
Property destruction as a means of political protest is an American tradition going all the way back to the Boston Tea Party.
'Police abandoned neighborhood' is not 'thugs take over neighborhood'.
Weird you would frame the police actions that way. They kettled an entire neighborhood and denied it service and blamed the people they trapped inside.
Ummm. The police were in danger. They had to retreat.
From Wikipedia:
"On June 7, the SPD reported that the crowd was throwing rocks, bottles, and fireworks, and were shining green lasers into officers' eyes.The next day, the SPD boarded up its building and moved out of the East Precinct in an effort to de-escalate the situation."
Antifa did not take over a block of Seattle in 2020 except in the minds of right wing racists.
I am aghast. Wow - so, in your eyes I would be a right-wing racist. Wow. You sound like such a nice guy.
Don’t engage the troll. It just wants to feed on your anger, fear and hatred. Tell it to fuck off instead.
Ahhhh, you have my heart.
What?
Antifa is not a group. You cannot join Antifa, and more than you can join, say, anti-racism. It is a philosophy, and the only thing that unites people who identify as antifa (and I would count myself among them) is opposition to fascism.
People who are opposed to fascism may join protests, and some of those protests may involve violence against property and persons -- although as far as I can tell, nobody who identifies with the antifa philosophy has been involved in murderous attacks in the US, which are almost exclusively the province of... you guessed it... fascists and others on the far right.
(There were several antifa killings by Americans in Germany 70 years or so ago, I think).
Antifa is not a group.
Well if Antifa is a terrorist organization, they should be kicked out of the union (Local 12 / the Villains, Thieves, and Scoundrels Union) given their pitiful performance of only 1 act of terrorism vs 130 for the right wing nut jobs. They should be ashamed of themselves.
FYI, look up the Rocky and Bullwinkle show for the union reference.
Did you see the same riots I did in the summer of 2020?
Nope because we're not smoking what you are. I saw a president attacking peaceful protesters so he could do a photo op with a bible he never read.
Do you mean the riots in which entire cities were burned to the ground, some of them more than once, and in which entire police departments were wiped out? Those riots?
Well, that never happened. Last time I checked neither Seattle, Portland nor Minneapolis was "burned to the ground" (to say nothing of entirely), nor were "entire police departments" wiped out.
To be fair, there were police officers executed by Boogaloo Boys, and they are right-wing extremists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_boogaloo_murders
LOL!
Better trolls, please.
The stats Kevin has presented are for deaths, not attacks.
Why the distinction between two groups that have embraced religious fascism?
Antifa has a religion. It is called Marxism.
Marxism is a socio-economic system. Marx:
"religion is the opium of the people."
You should read more Marx. At the very least, Marxism is a cult. He did promise a Heaven on Earth once the cycle was complete. Marxism has also changed over the years as the people who think it is a good thing change their tactics. Today's Marxism wants to destroy our culture.
Wow, are you simply a fool for a troll, or just dumb. Perhaps a little factual information might help.
How do you know the two "Antifa" signs I say were not from right-wingers? Can you prove otherwise?
I guess I am dumb, because I have no idea what you mean by "How do you know the two "Antifa" signs I say were not from right-wingers? Can you prove otherwise?"
What are you asking? If I am missing something, it would be nice to know.
LOL! Better trolls, please.
This shouldn’t surprise anyone, though the numbers are interesting. It’s completely predictable that whackos waving flags, guns, and religious texts are a public hazard (nuisance).
Islamic terrorism pretty close though. Interesting that surprised me.
That's because they lumped a bunch of other things into it, weirdly.
"Well if Antifa is a terrorist organization .."
Whether they are an organization is irrelevant. The question is how many murders are motivated by far left ideology. Many of the rightwing murderers listed weren't members of any organized group.
And it's an undercount as well due to the many mass murders committed by men who self-radicalized on a diet of conservative conspiracy theories and other junk - the Las Vegas mass murder guy was rumored to have radical viewpoints and an internet history to match but this was all swept under the rug due to when the shooting happened - wasn't politically convenient to admit that in 2017.
Kevin, your headline does not align with the chart you’ve presented. Your headline claims attacks. The chart enumerates deaths.
Somewhere between the text of Kevin’s source, and the chart he republished the total for far-right changed by eight.
While these deaths are tragic, I wonder about the accounting behind these numbers. For example, the Guardian (not a right wing publication) shows 25 political linked deaths, including 9 associated with BLM events. How do these deaths fit into the chart? I suspect there is a lot of subjectivity involved in these categories...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled
...linked does not mean attributed. A car crash could linked because they were going to an event, but may not be caused by that event. Or it might have happened nearby.
From what I have read misogyny plays a big role in white supremacy movements. I am not sure you can easily separate the two. For example:
“ Misogyny is a key element of white supremacy, Anti-Defamation League report finds”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/misogyny-white-supremacy-links-alt-right-antidefamation-league-report-incel-a8463611.html
so who exactly is New America? are they a reliable source, because i've never heard of them till today?
(not that i find these numbers hard to believe)
Don't know who they are, but here is a list of organizations who have been funding them:
https://www.newamerica.org/our-funding/
Always helpful to follow the money.
I wish kevin had plotted the data on a timeline. I suspect the events attributed to jihadist and far right would show opposite trend lines.
The source from which he copied the table has a chart of cumulative over time.
Your looking at direct connections.
Keeping our country awash in guns has been far more dangerous.
Handicapping the IRS means easier money laundering for "gangs".
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