You may not be aware of this if you lead a normal life, but the latest anti-woke jihad from Fox News is about Snow White. (I know. Snow White. It could hardly be more perfect, could it?) In particular, the new Snow White ride at Disneyland ends with Prince Charming kissing Ms. White to wake her from the spell of the evil queen, and we liberals are in an uproar over this depiction of kissing "without consent." How ridiculous!
It may surprise you to know this. Has it been plastered all over Rachel Maddow's show? Has it gone viral on progressive Twitter? How have you missed this?
It turns out that it comes from one (1) place: a review of the ride in SFGATE (which is not the San Francisco Chronicle, in case you're interested). The two reviewers do indeed point out that the kiss is problematic in view of Disney's history, but they sensibly concluded that it wasn't really a big deal:
Still, with the twinkling lights all around and the gorgeous special effects, that final scene is beautifully executed — as long as you're watching it as a fairy tale, not a life lesson.
So that's that. An pair of online reviewers mentioned the kiss but then told everyone not to worry about it. And no one did. But it is now canon among the Fox News set that liberals are up in arms about this and are pressuring Disneyland to change it. Thus are myths and legends born.
POSTSCRIPT: For what it's worth, I think the reviewers have it wrong anyway. I am, needless to say, opposed to kissing without consent, but if I knew for a fact that a quick peck could cure you of cancer or wake you from a coma, I would conclude that the quick peck wins this contest of competing values. So I think Prince Charming is in the clear.
"A quick peck."
Exactly. And note, this was not Prince Charming performing oral rape with his tongue, or copping a feel, much less more extreme and clearly criminal actions. Truly the Right/White Wing grows more unhinged every day. While rolicking in their own hypocrisy, they strive vainly to accuse lefties of it. (Hey, when we detect hypocrisy in ourselves, we're the first to rage and "cancel" on it!)
There's an interested op-ed on the Daily Beast this morning about "angry entitled Disney adults", which opens with "an immutable fact of childhood is that if kids love something enough, adults will eventually ruin it." Here's the link:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/angry-entitled-disney-adults-are-the-heart-and-soul-of-the-gop?ref=home?ref=home
Exactly.
If the Unusual Gang of Idiots at FOXnews wants to invent a wokepocalypse now about consent, they would do better to consider Matt King's kiss of his wayward, comatose wife* at the end of the Descendants. (Bonus points: King was portrayed by noted Hollywood libtard & Davosite, George Clooney.)
*Who still shows more enthusiasm for her beloved than does Descendants costar Shailene Woodley for her reallife betrothed, Aaron Rodgers. #teamgutekunst #letloveplay
That relationship does seem kind of odd. But it's not for me to judge; I imagine some may view my 30+ year relationship with my wife as being somewhat weird as well.
#TeamRodgers #FireGutes
White wing??? Considering many aren't white, and the others hate being white, your point is moot.
You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
Alcohol deadens the senses.
Ask I understand it, in the Italian version of the story Snow White awakens 9 months after the Prince’s “visit”. So I suppose we should be grateful that the Prince just kisses her in the Disney version.
By the way, I highly recommend the Neil Gaiman version of the story as illustrated by Colleen Doran, “Snow Glass Apples”.
The 'real' version of fairy tales are typically way more gruesome than the literally Disneyfied version.
In the Grimm version of Cinderella, the step-sisters cut off parts of their feet in unsuccessful attempts to fit into the glass slipper.
They don't call 'em Grimm for nothing.
The old version I've heard has the dwarfs carry Snow White's coffin to the castle for the mourning prince to see. One of them stumbles along the way, causing the coffin to hit the ground. The bump causes a piece of the poisoned apple in Snow White's throat to pop out, and then she wakes up from her coma. A big wedding is then held for her and the prince. Snow White recognizes the witch in attendance, who is then forced to dance in red-hot, metal shoes until she collapses and dies.
That's the version I remember, too! The pre-Disney telling.
What is Disney's problematic history on this matter that my brain is forgetting?
It's been a long time since I've seen or read Snow White, but isn't she supposed to be dead at this point? And the prince is so overcome with her beauty he can't resist smooching her corpse?
You don't have to actually specify a problem for history to be 'problematic' , especially in the case of a white, heterosexual, conservative leaning guy like Walt Disney. Doubleplus especially when he wears a pencil thin mustache.
Disney was Social Nationalism before it was totally vogue.
LOL
It's really the only thing that poster has said anywhere near the truth. But Disney never got into the Volks thing nor did Diseny continue relations as tensions heightened, unlike, say, Ford or Kodak.
In the original Grimm story the Prince and Snow kill the Queen by torturing her to death. That would have made an interesting end to the ride:
“ Then they put a pair of iron shoes into burning coals. They were brought forth with tongs and placed before her. She was forced to step into the red-hot shoes and dance until she fell down dead.”
Don't give Quentin Tarantino any ideas.
In the wake of Emma Stone's dankmemes Cruella de Ville origin story, a Tarantino Snow White revenge fantasy isn't out of the question.
When my niece was a little girl she saw Disney’s “Little Mermaid” and loved it. My sister saw a non-Disney version in the local Blockbuster and rented it. Unfortunately the non-Disney version was the actual story in which the mermaid wants legs to dance for the Prince, but when she does he is a lout and ignores her. In the end, she dies and becomes the foam in the sea. My niece was up all night crying.
My poor sister. She was just so unschooled on all things Disney. Another time she rented a Disney movie with a cute dog on the cover. If you guessed “Old Yeller” you’d be right and with a similar result as The Little Mermaid.
Last year when the remake of Dumbo got on television I thought I should refresh my memory of the original.
Couldn't make it past five minutes.
I did remember that!
It's comforting to remember that before Disney began appropriating everything else, it all started with appropriating German versions of European folklore.
Nice diversion when you've tried and failed to steal an election and are busy making sure the next effort succeeds by enacting all kinds of voter intimidation. Meanwhile, disturbing evidence surfaces about who took part in the Insurrection and what their motivations were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dskVval50AE&list=FL0F3OHOEyaLkb-g08tn50hQ&index=1&t=3s
That relationship does seem kind of odd. But it's not for me to judge; I imagine some may view my 30+ year relationship with my wife as being somewhat weird as well.
#TeamRodgers #FireGutes
In reality, the Love pick, which I endorsed from the jump -- I actually thought the entire 2020 draft was brilliant -- was almost certainly Mark Murphy's call, after input from La Fleur & Gutekunst in that order. It wasn't Gute's baby, as was the Rodgers pick for Ted Thompson. But even if it was Gutekunst acting alone, he did nothing wrong.
This is actually Fox News committing a woke act. When will they figure out virtue signaling is hated by the American people?? Gaetz(yes, it's a Jewish surname, guess when Gaetz's paternal side entered the Jewish fray) and Greeneberg's virtue signaling is so bad, even rural areas down south don't want them around.
Death to CRT, Zionism and false history(white Christianity)
I guess chalk it up as Yet Another Example of the crazy Rightists being such anger junkies that, if they can't find anything real to get angry about, will just invent something.
I doubt 10% of people south of 70 know who Snow White is. I say let Fox own the over 70 set if they want.
They probably also don't realize Snow White is a anti-Christian sermon long used by the pagans.
You need to watch more television!
What are you talking about? My daughter is 12 now but when she was younger she watched Snow White ALL THE TIME. She was Snow White for Halloween when she was 3 and her newborn brother was Dopey. All her little friends knew who all the Disney Princesses were. And the younger kids of all our friends today do as well. If it' Disney its known to kids.
These things become unassailable truths once planted in the minds of FOX & right-wing radio audiences. And it goes beyond that. My right-leaning brother in law put a Cat in the Hat decal on his bike helmet. I asked why. "Because liberals are saying we're supposed to hate Dr Seuss. This is my fuck you to them!" My ten minute explanation of what really happened had zero impact.
Why does your brother bicycle frequently enough he has a helmet?
Why does he hate cars?
Doesn't he know helmets are slavery?
Peddling around in public wearing his obedience hat.
I am actually relieved Lance Armstrong has not shown any inclination to get into Texas politics.
You folks are cracking me up!
Why does your brother bicycle frequently enough he has a helmet? Why does he hate cars?
Not everyone enjoys the privilege of living in a fossil fuel sanctuary state, comrade!
When somebody is unconscious then they cannot give consent - and that includes consent to quite gruesome medical procedures designed to help the unconscious person
IMHO its all about the intention
If the "intention" is to help the unconscious person then "consent" should be assumed
If (as was the background here) the person is known or thought to be dead then again the intention is key
Necrophilia would not be considered to be acceptable - but a goodbye kiss would be acceptable in most cultures
OK, let's hear your rationalization for the wanton bestiality in The Frog Prince?
The frog can talk, and hence, consent.
And he asked for it. (Literally.)
The problem with the review, and the Consent framing, is that it isn't exploring the extent to which Consent was established when the Prince and Snow White first met.
Interestingly, according to Wikipedia, the Grimm version doesn't involve a kiss, it involves a piece of apple being dislodged from her throat; and the Prince and Snow White had not previously met.
So, the Prince performs the Heimlich maneuver?
No, the dwarfs do it (unwittingly) by dropping the coffin.
Could always balance with a ride ending with Fifth Element’s “ecto gammat” scene ....
Gary Oldman's best work was in that movie. Chris Tucker, too.
I'm old enough to remember when a Jeopardy winner discretely held up three fingers in front of his chest on his third win and he was accused of flashing a white power sign and forced to issue a groveling apology. Heck, I can remember when a 'gay' couple went to a cake baker for a custom wedding cake and were politely refused, and rather than simply going to another baker them made a federal case over it.
We're not gonna bake it
No, we're not gonna bake it
We're not gonna bake it
Anymore
(The hit single from the most triggered Rock-a-Rama band ever, Twisted Panties.)
It wasn’t a federal case. Colorado law prohibits discrimination against gay people in business transactions. The cake-baker had every right to live in a right-wing state where such discrimination is perfectly legal. Sheesh, get your deranged woke-panic memes straight.
Forcing people to do work they don't want to do is actually called 'slavery'.
Not when they say they'll do it for money. When they back out of an offer, it's called 'fraud'.
There were plenty of states Rosa Parks could have ridden in the front of the bus...why didn't she move?
Yes, why did she have to face discrimination that you're defending and proving your racism with?
Idiotic Fox News, yes.
But essentially the same as the latest hysterical news from the NYT regarding some supposed Facebook outrage.
Mainstream media (whether Fox or NYT) has become an outrage machine. That tells us something about the quality and integrity of those at the top of BOTH organizations, but tells us nothing more than that.
SFGate is the the SF Chronicle. It used to be one and the same but SFgate is now the click baity free version and SF Chronicle is behind the pay wall. If you want to know the whole history it goes back to Joint Operating Agreements and when KRON TV and SF Chronicle were owned by the same family before the Hurst family finally realized their dream of owning the SF Chronicle which they bought right at the launch of the internet, being the brilliant business people they are.