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The Nord Stream pipelines were destroyed by six unknown people of unknown nationality

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The explosion that shut down the Nord Stream pipelines is suddenly back in the news. According to the New York Times:

New intelligence reviewed by U.S. officials suggests that a pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines last year, a step toward determining responsibility for an act of sabotage that has confounded investigators on both sides of the Atlantic for months.

Hmmm. It doesn't say that Ukrainians carried out the attack, only that the perpetrators were pro-Ukrainians. Over in Germany, courtesy of Google Translate, Die Zeit has much more:

Investigators have succeeded in identifying the boat that was allegedly used for the secret operation. It is said to be a yacht rented from a company based in Poland, apparently owned by two Ukrainians. According to the investigation, the secret operation at sea was carried out by a team of six people....The nationality of the perpetrators is apparently unclear. The assassins used professionally forged passports, which are said to have been used, among other things, to rent the boat.

....In international security circles, it is not ruled out that it could also be a false flag operation.

Professionally forged passports? What nationality was forged?

I suppose we'll eventually find out that this is all speculative horseshit. Or maybe Sy Hersh is right and Joe Biden, working in Dark Brandon mode, personally donned scuba gear and planted the explosives himself.

For now, it's best to take this mostly as entertainment. But I could use a little of that right now.

20 thoughts on “The Nord Stream pipelines were destroyed by six unknown people of unknown nationality”

  1. D_Ohrk_E1

    Last week, Russia tried to make hay out of such folks who'd entered deep into Bryansk and did something, after one of them -- a Russian national who mostly grew up in Germany and Ukraine and was a neo-Nazi -- publicized it on video.

    Pro-Ukrainian Russians and Ukrainian nationals living abroad are not going to sit idly by. Some will do things that are counter to Ukraine's interests, out of self-interest. Like WWII, there are a lot of strange bedfellows, including very distasteful groups.

    1. aldoushickman

      "a Russian national who mostly grew up in Germany and Ukraine and was a neo-Nazi "

      You'd think that actual neo-Nazis would *love* Vladi's Russia: an expansionist blood-and-soil quasi-ethnostate in which liberal ideas like the rule of law and tolerance of viewpoints are subordinated to power for power's sake overseen by a improbable strongman dictator nursing grievances on an (inter)national scale in which internal failings are blamed on insufficient loyalty and/or dedication to a farcical sense of destiny rooted in an imagined great past and an even more improbable great future.

      I guess US neo-Nazis and their fellow travelers seem to love it.

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      1. Solar

        Well, it is an accurate translation, so not really an artifact. My question is more along the lines of why would the original publication use the word for assassins in their original text.

      2. Jerry O'Brien

        It is a poor translation of the German Attentäter, which means violent attackers. It can refer to assassins, but doesn't always.

  3. realrobmac

    A pro-Republican friend bent my ear about this a couple of weeks ago. He is convinced that Biden ordered the attack. My response: if so then Biden has gained even more of my respect than he had before.

    1. Austin

      Yeah I don't really understand why this is a problem for the US. Russia is screwing itself, whether or not it wins the war, and it's not like Europe wasn't already going to abandon NordStream at the first opportunity if it hadn't been damaged anyway. The attack on NordStream just accelerated the EU's move away from using Russian resources.

  6. Joseph Harbin

    Let's say Hersh is right. It was a US covert operation. There seems to be some tension between what the US wants people to know and not know. "No one can ever trace this to us." "Sure, we can take out the pipeline." "Oh, no. Wasn't us. You have us confused with somebody else."

    There's this. Hersh:

    The CIA argued that whatever was done, it would have to be covert. Everyone involved understood the stakes. “This is not kiddie stuff,” the source said. If the attack were traceable to the United States, “It’s an act of war.”

    And then this. NY Times:

    Early last year, President Biden, after meeting with Chancellor Olaf Scholz of Germany at the White House, said Mr. Putin’s decision about whether to attack Ukraine would determine the fate of Nord Stream 2. “If Russia invades, that means tanks and troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2,” Mr. Biden said. “We will bring an end to it.”

    When asked exactly how that would be accomplished, Mr. Biden cryptically said, “I promise you we’ll be able to do it.”

    1. kennethalmquist

      Biden's comments may have been cryptic, but they rather quickly proved true. When Russia invaded, Germany cancelled Nord Stream 2. Maybe in an alternate universe where Germany refused to cancel Nord Stream 2, Biden would have ordered the pipeline blown up. But that doesn't shed any light on why half* of Nord Stream 2 was blown up in the universe we actually inhabit.

      * Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 each consist of two physical pipelines, for a total of four pipelines. The attack struck three of the four pipelines: both of the Nord Stream pipelines and one of the Nord Stream 2 pipelines.

  7. duncancairncross

    Just ask yourself “Who Benefitted”

    The Russians had turned off the tap - Putin had decided that they were not going to supply

    That left the Russian Gas company in trouble - they were going to be liable for millions in compensation for shutting off the supply

    Then the pipeline mysteriously blew up - something that would have been very very difficult for anybody EXCEPT the Russians to do

    So the Russian Gas company could claim “force major” and escape paying the compensation

    Motive, Opportunity and Means

  8. Coby Beck

    Pretty clear that the US wanted this outcome and benefitted from it. Russia is even trying to repair it now.

    "Or maybe Sy Hersh is right and Joe Biden, working in Dark Brandon mode, personally donned scuba gear and planted the explosives himself"

    I don't understand why anyone except those he has exposed ridicule Sy Hersh. Reminds me of all the blowback he got about Abu Graib.

  9. Goosedat

    Their nationality may be unknown but the Nord Stream pipeline terrorists political affiliation was Democratic liberal.

    1. cld

      You can totally get that out of absolutely no information at all.

      That's the magic power of your mind, it works just by thinking about it. Magic.

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