I only managed to watch half of the Republican debate tonight before I gave up. What a shitshow. The lesson they all seem to have taken from the last one is that they should yell over each other a lot.
That's all I've got. During the small portion I watched I heard little aside from stale bromides and a few lame attempts at zingers. Is it possible for every candidate to lose ground?
When even Glen Beck and Nick Fuentes says your debate is crap....
So this is the best the GOP has to offer in lieu of Trump?
I am so surprised that the Sociopath Party's debate descended into chaos. NOT!!
i also had no appettite to watch, but it seems like this was a good indication of how dumb it was.
HALEY: "Do your homework, Tim, because Obama bought those curtains."
SCOTT: "Did you send them back?"
HALEY: "It's the State Department. Did you send them back? You're the one who works in Congress.
SCOTT: "You hung them up."
HALEY: "They were there before I showed up."
Tim Scott really is that stupid. OMG
So this is what Republican voters are supposed to be concerned about? I can understand their rage if a Democrat did it (because nothing is too trivial to burn a Dem for), but an intra-Republican curtain spat? Really?
I could only manage to read the blow by blow on WAPO. This was an awful debate. And, Kevin, I think they will all go down in the polls. It is possible.
It is amazing how scared the Republican Party — and Fox News — is of Donald Trump.
The mind-bogglingly obvious question was: do you think the Republican Party should be led by someone found guilty of massive and long term fraud? And it wasn’t asked.
insane that didn't come up in a question.
I suspect Dana Perino’s mind was on where to get her next prescription for the latest weight loss drug. She did not look healthy to me.
Who better?
And seriously, "Do you believe that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff should be executed?" is a question I think needs to be asked of every Republican.
Also a good question
Down, across the board, no question. How are any of these supposed to beat Trump, or get anywhere near him?
He came with just a decade of staged reality shows for experience. With only that to beat, they got nuthin.' And he's already got ~40% of the country.
Pure shitshow. Watching commentary on MSNBC from Michael Steele has been good.
Oh the inanity...
“a few lame attempts at zingers”
Had to work during debate. But saw the postgame show during my break. And the “experts” lamented that there were no “zingers”. They wanted more of “Well there he goes again “, cause that’s the epitome of gop policy proposals.
According to the BBC, Ramaswamy said at one point:
"Thank you for talking while I'm interrupting,"
That is pretty good, no?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66944113
I had the impression that Christie was running to attack Trump, but he apparetly doesn't.
I didn’t watch the debate, but I’m told that Christie attacked Trump on the deficit and on something related to immigration. DeSantis criticized Trump for failing to support a six week abortion ban. Several candidates (including Christie) criticized Trump for not showing up for the debate. In short, Christie was Trump's strongest critic in the debate, but even he didn’t mention Trump's four criminal indictments or the fact that the judge in the New York civil trial just ruled that Trump inflated the valuations of his assets.
It seems like the candidates, by and large, were either running for Vice President or hoping that Trump dies of a heart attack some time between now and the Republican Convention.
The problem with Trump is that he wants to destroy democracy in the US and replace it a dictatorship. Talking about anything else doesn't count as attacking him.
It is not vice president that the obvious non-winners run for. It is name recognition, which is useful in various ways.
I’ve said before that the GOP is the ‘small tents’ party — made up of lots of single-issue voters, plus tribal Republicans. There are the anti-abortion minority, the gun absolutists, the prayer-in-schools sort-of evangelicals, and of course the anti-tax, anti-regulation fat cats. But clearly the largest group today is the TFG cult. They are impervious to reason, facts, science — everything that has made life on this planet better since the Enlightenment. Come to think of it, many in the other subgroups are also ignorant by choice. The GOP can’t afford to lose any of these voters, as they are in the minority nationally. This locks candidates into declarations of loyalty to each of these fetishes, above all TFG. Guess we need to continue our leftist takeover of the education system and try to deprogram their kids ….????
Exactly. Each small tent could care less about the other tents, which is why you can have a tent dedicated to the position that government is a total joke next to the life begins at conception and abortion is therefore murder tent.
This is why having a functional government with some chance of sane policy is not a question of policy, its a question of math.
The small tents need to be out voted in the aggregate. That's all folks!
When your party and all your candidates are shit, expecting anything other than a shit show is nonsensical.
Didn't watch, so I do not understand the curtains thing. Why would people who want to be president be arguing about curtains?
I'm seeing on the internet that DeSantis did a great job, hit it out of the park, etc. Since it's on the internet, it must be true, right? The question is, does he have enough money & people to hang on till the Iowa caucuses?
Everyone who did watch was also wondering “Why are they arguing about curtains?” Apparently when Nicki Haley was ambassador to the UN, the ambassador’s residence had $50,000 curtains, which Tim Scott acted outraged about.
This was a big scandal for five minutes five years ago: https://people.com/politics/state-department-nikki-haley-nyc-residence-curtains-52000/
You'd think the bigger scandal would be that the rent on that place is $58,000 a month.
The present and future GOP: a shit show. Elect clowns, expect a circus...that's just doing what the ringmaster, the TOFF, has shown is the path to a devolved sort of glory.
Baboonery: the loudest and most obnoxious male baboon becomes the leader of the troop.
Because he wasn't there, every other baboon tried to establish their bona fides as the next loudest and most obnoxious.
Donald Trump's January 6th riot was the world's largest gathering of people who think their real dad was Bigfoot, --and not one Republican candidate will tell them it wasn't.
Did anyone have any doubts that this would be a real shit show! And this is the "best" of the selection of repulsives?
Over at the Post, Alexandra Petri has a satirical "summary" of the debate:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/28/second-republican-primary-debate-recap-satire/
I dunno. Haley telling Ramaswamy "Every time you speak, I feel a little stupider" is a pretty good zinger.